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How To Be A World-Class Creative Pro

with Chase Jarvis and Joe McNally

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About The Class

There's a common misconception that artists have a monopoly on creativity… But the very act of making waves - no matter the career - is a creative one. The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show is an exploration of creativity, self-discovery, entrepreneurship, hard-earned lessons, and so much more. Chase sits down with the world's top creators, entrepreneurs, and thought leaders and unpacks actionable, valuable insights to help you live your dreams in career, hobby, and life.


This is one of the more serious interviews with Joe, who’s generally very fun and jovial – and I feel super grateful to get the opportunity to pull out some of the lessons he’s learned from so many decades in the business of photography. There’s simply no other way to learn this stuff other than being the trenches for the better part of a lifetime and looking back on it, and that’s most of what you’ll hear in this interview. It’s way too easy to miss the forest for the trees, so I would highly encourage you to use this as an opportunity to take a step back and look at the bigger picture of your own life. I firmly believe introspection is one of your most valuable tools, and this episode is super fuel for it.

  • He talks about something a lot of people think or claim to possess but not so many actually do, which is tenacity. He has some great stories about being – as he says – “pitbull when he has a camera in his hands” and doing whatever it takes to get the shot
  • We’ve talked about the vital role of failure many times on this show and I love what Joe has to say about it – about how his failure shooting a horse race early in his career is specifically what set him up for success later in his career on projects like shooting the launch of the space shuttle
  • We get into something that’s very rarely discussed, which is the cost of being a super high achiever – some brutally honest discussion about the tradeoffs Joe’s made in his own career, such as the fact that traveling so much as a photographer meant that he missed a good chunk of his children’s formative years. Very real and raw stuff.


Joe McNally is one of the most accomplished photographers of his generation, with a list of achievements that I couldn’t possibly do justice to in this little intro. He’s one of the few people who have managed to be super successful in both journalism and commercial photography, and a few of the highlights of his insane career are working with clients including FedEx, Sony, GE, Adidas and Epson; working as LIFE Magazine’s only staff photographer; shooting cover stories for the likes of Newsweek, Sports Illustrated and Time among many many others; authoring three books on photography and creating several high-profile projects such as the incredibly powerful collection “Faces Of Ground Zero” honoring the first responders to the 9/11 attacks. Like I said there’s so much more on his resume but there’s no way I can get through it all – I don’t often use the word legend but that is exactly what Joe is in the world of photography, as well as a very wise, kind and humble guy.

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    How To Be A World-Class Creative Pro with Joe McNally


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Chase Jarvis

Chase Jarvis is a well known photographer and entrepreneur. As a photographic master, he is regularly cited as one of the most influential photographers of the past decade, having won numerous awards from Prix de la Photographie de Paris, The Addys, The Lions, Digiday, The Advertising Photographers of America, and The International Photography Awards among many others. ... read more

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Joe McNally

Joe McNally is an internationally acclaimed photographer whose career has spanned more than 30 years and included assignments in over 60 countries. McNally is often described as a generalist because of his ability to execute a wide range of ... read more

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