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Editing Critique Part 5

12 Why? Why would you Cropper head off? Do you know what I mean? Like, it's the black and white is nice, but the crop doesn't make any sense. 12 again. That's wonderful. Composition. Don't do that. One to your right. You got rid of the green, but you overcorrected just a little bit exactly in attempting to get rid of the greens. Now you've made the magenta and over exposed. Yep. They're cute, though, buddy. Something language. It's just making making an odd crushed highlight. White balance selection one too. Good. Actually, that's actually really nice. Very, very, very well done. 12 This is unforgivable, right? Like this should never be your before you can look at the back of your LCD and controlled situation. The light is not good. The exposure is not good. And as a result, this picture is a disaster. You can't see the noise. Maybe at home. But it's got a ton of it. Is it is Jeffrey. Freedom can help you in this. Nobody can help you because you essentially raised it. Five stops and yo...

u cropped it in. Which makes it, you know. Yes. No, you're right, Charlie. Your clients like and it's illegal. This, yes, it's illegal, and someone could die like Please stop doing this if people, if people are finding is it so I get out this question. If people are finding a completely abandoned railroad, it's still actually a legal. And I would love and I would love for you to address that. Exactly. Thank you. And I've also heard stories where people were like I thought these railroad tracks were abandoned and then the rain came. Here comes alive train. Whether it's abandoned or not, it's still illegal. Yeah, because they actually passed a law like you're not allowed to be on the train tracks because of that idiot renegade film crew. The win to go form a movie and somebody died. Just it is never of it. Be railroad track adjacent. Yeah, if you want. If you want roller tracks or a train going by, get away from them and shoot toward them. I shot a wedding recently where there's train tracks in the background about 50 feet away from them. Just this just isn't safe, and it's not so extraordinary a picture that it was worth maybe putting your clients lives in danger. Just please don't do it. So I'm not thinking it before after it's better. It's still green, but like, let's be really dull anymore. But let's be real, like that area is probably dead green. Write it like there's probably a lot of algae and stuff going on in there. It's definitely better before after Nice save. Yeah, but it shouldn't have ever come out quite like that. But you shave with the black and wanted to shave your lens. When you're shooting into the sons, they don't have this issue. You have somebody else do it for you, but I Actually I quite like that. Black and white didn't get job saving it before after too bright, too bright, and you created a weird look. I mean, listen, the lights that they've got in the room or an epic disaster, and there's nothing that you can do about the fact that the lights are terrible, but it's just it's just a little too much before. After that's a that's a nice block. That's actually quite nice. Even the strive for shooting like that so you don't have to crop before after the crop doesn't do anything for it. But I truthfully like that before I like before. I just want to brighten up the before in government. But I like the color correction before after Strive to shoot it like that before? No, just. But I just know it. It just doesn't know what you're going for, but it just doesn't work before after. That's fine. I like this image in black and white. It makes it feel more timeless before, after subtle. I like it. Well, hot on her face A little bit. Yeah, before after. Yeah, I think that improves it. Problem. Same. Same same color balance problem. But a crop that doesn't it just doesn't make sense to me. Good. Save of bad exposure of bad light. I like it in black and white. Yeah, too much. You didn't need to go. You're creating so much contrast. You know, I know it's going. It's almost like the soup, Bryce over the way. She does these beautiful vintages and brings in the light flare from alien skin. But it doesn't work in this situation, and it's you've now you've made them look on natural because they barely had anything under their eyes and the lips again Yeah, that's the same. I think that's the same maker. You can see the blocked up color in the lips because it's pushed so hard it is, and the color just looks. It just hurts your eyes. And she's so pretty she doesn't need to be retouched that hard. No, before after. Oh, I don't think the color works here. You're still orangey bland, and I'm not convinced it's better, but it's not quite there yet before after. Yeah, it's better. Better tough, tough spot for Ophelia before. After no drop down closer to the water yourself. Clear them from the mountain line in the background, at least their shoulders. It's just. If you had dropped down and brought them higher, you would have been able to break too dark and down. You would have had a really dramatic picture. And this just loses everything. Yep, before after nice looks fine, Mr Crop. That this the crop does not improve anything. And the color balance went from close to not anywhere near a little dingy. Now, Yeah, before after Better Still green. Still a little tough. Yeah, I mean it, but it's tough light, you know, It is a little better. Yeah. Saved it. Good job. Good save Next time. Strive to shoot it with no light in your limbs so you don't have to save it. But they did a good job saving up too much. No. See, I thought that they were much better off with the photo initially. Yep. And if you wanted to darken down the background more than you should have done that by closing down a little bit. And you have removed 90% of the picture. Let's talk about the things that disappear. Bench that. That entire bench light next to the bench. I mean, I just don't I don't understand why you would take everything out like that, because it just doesn't help. I can't. It looks back focused to me. But that's hard for me to. It just doesn't. All of the excessive editing here doesn't help tell a better story Better. Yeah, definitely better. So little green. No. Yeah. Listen, this is saying a super super super overexposed, and it's still not brought back enough. And now the color has gone from I mean, the color Still bad. It's just not quite there. Pretty good save. Yeah, about a good crop. Good. Save the exposure is close enough that you didn't destroy the picture. And it's a nice moment. Well done. This this isn't bad. It's not far. Just a little too far. Bring it down a little, and you would have had a better shot. Um, I mean, it's better. It's better. But it it had such You need to work on the exposure issues from the very beginning. Yep. Because you could have done a much better job before. After the before. It's better. But the lighting should have been improved in the original photograph. So touch pink? Yeah, before, after no better. This was just not gonna work because you've got them in this Hell is never gonna work. You can't do anything about that. Yeah, you had to move them or exposed for that highlight only, and I don't think it would have been a viable Imagine if you had No. Okay. I like the selective darkening to take your eye to the subject. Yeah, I agree. Interesting composition. Interesting opposition. Good crop to remove the drafting, coloring elements. Still a little green, but I like what they did. See, this was a well shot image from the beginning. I don't know why they made it. Orange. Yeah, I mean, that's I was pretty great with it to begin with. And now it's orange. Back to the drawing board. It was a good image on with one till I mean, Okay. All right. It's a good shave. A really poorly composed image. Yep. Before After who? I mean, that's a blue suit. That's a straight. And there is no doubt that yeah. Suit. I just, um, looks a little dull to me now. Yeah, if this it's pretty much the same picture. Yeah, it's almost unnoticeable. So too much? Yeah. Overdone. Way too much. And I can see you can't make fake light on your subjects in post too much way too much. That was better than I already had. Something that was pretty vibrant. And once you lower the exposure, you really made it look good. Really nicely like it. No, that is It's such a blocky black. And I don't disagree with your choice for black and white. I know where you're shooting. I know how hard it is, but it's so dark. And her arms looks almost bruised because of the way the black and white is rendering. It's just too dark. If that's a mole, don't remove it without making sure they want it removed. If it is it, fine. But it looks like a mole. Good job, however, retouching the under ice while still retaining some semblance of normalcy under the eyes. Too much, too much blocking in your blacks. You didn't get dark in the blocks that much. Yeah, good choice of black and white in the situation. But again, be careful with your blacks, little over softened. It looks like a couple. Um, it's a good save of a not very well lit, not very well composed image, but that is definitely an improvement. It's an improvement. It's also still green on the right side of the frame. Yeah, but I bet you that's for us. Yeah, Building. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a good save. Just work on your exposure in the first place. If you worked on your exposure in the first place, you wouldn't have had to save it exactly. Same thing here. You could have done this in camera a grade. It also doesn't entirely look like it's in focus. No, I feel like you might have missed the stone a little bit. And also and also Green Bay. Yeah, Yeah. 12 Sure. Yeah. Well, im front. See, I felt like you did pretty good at the outset. It looks like it's very pink and purple Ian there. You could have warned them a little bit, But then now there's you made, um, orange. And you did something weird, Especially to the bride. Yeah. Now she And now it's gone Super, Super orange and yeah, but you were close on your initial capture. Use 20 far. You could use the black and white. Very good use of black and white. It brings your eye straight to your subject. Yep. That's a really good edit. We argued about this last night. I think the edit is really good. I don't think the picture is really good. I kind of like the picture. But once they my problem is, is she's got her head down. By the time they edit it. Now it looks like she's barfing a ribbon. I I'm sorry. Like, it looks like you have been impaled through the head because this comes down and it just you wish the curtains Honestly, what I would have done. If I'm going to do such a stylistic edit, I'm gonna turn the entire background behind her head into a big white square. Would have done that to take the I light brush and brush that they will be going on. So there you go, person at home. Take a highlight brush, get rid of the ribbons that Susan thinks she's speaking. And you haven't really just I mean, it's their right. But if you're gonna stylized it so hard, stylized it the whole way. Agreed. There's a lot of darkening down of the edges and you're making the, like, weird blue light on there. Yeah, Blue. Yeah, I don't Yeah, I think what you did with her face was good, but what you did on the edges, I would get rid of. Yeah, agreed. Black and white. A little muddy, a little bit. I think you could have fixed the white balance here, but you know, I think it's OK. I have no problems with the black and white choice. It's just that it's a little muddy, a little bit shoot like that, should it tighter. And tonight it is there, still a little hot from it. Yep. Let's go. Because they No, I just like everything. Yeah. I just can't be okay with how this was shot in the first place To be completely honest. And maybe this is tough love, but no one that is taking money from clients to shoot a wedding should be turning out images like this. This literally, like, if you're 100% unacceptable. If your radio signal failed and you're flashed in and fire here than it should have been firing on the next one or something and this not just save this, you've destroyed the don't do it. Just don't do it. Just toss it. Didn't we go back and forth, not being able to figure out which one was the original and which one was the? Yeah, we had a hard time. I'm gonna guess the one on the right is the original. And the one on the left is the after because nothing comes out of camera looking like it doesn't left. No, I think I think you were okay. I would have just I wouldn't have gone so much on exposure. You feel like you started with a pretty good image that you could have lightened. Maybe. Like I thought of a stop and just warmed slightly. Yeah, you went a little too far. Um really? Yeah. I liked your white balance bar on your first. I did too. I did, too. I gotta just starting to down. Yeah. I don't mind the crop here. I mean, you have a shot at the show like that. Fine. But at least they at least they put them in a good spot. I find that positioning a little awkward, but that's a different situation. I don't like this because you made it green. It went from blue to green. It's not in focus and not even a tiny little bit. And it's catching all that blue from the jar. But most egregiously, it's not in focus. You could be careful with the diamond. It's money. I'd love to know if this person went to a neutral white balance before the conversion to black and white. Yeah, cause that can really help you to get toe like a neutral kind of on the cool side. White balance, first and inward. Good crop. Yet is a good cry like the cop a lot, but strive to crop it that way in camera. That's an improvement. It? Yeah. Yes, because they were so pink. Yeah, um, I see what you're trying to do, but you Now you've blown it out, and now it's also still yellow. And very much same message, actually. Yeah, You didn't need to raise her that much. And now she's kind of green. Yeah. I just wouldn't take an image like this against a white sky. You know, you don't you won't win it too much. You fought the sun and you lost like the sun will always win. Oh, okay. Good job of bringing back the details a little too much on the bringing back of the details, but I like it. It's fine. It's kind of interesting, that school. Okay, look, guys, listen there. I'm laughing because it's things really bad. Photoshopped. He's leaning on the railing, and suddenly there's a railing. So what is he leaning on? He's leaning on the air. He's clearly leaning. And now that, and you can see where the railing waas and it's just just know, like now. So I'm gonna I'm gonna give the user the benefit of the maker. The benefit of the doubt I'm going to say that they were delivering this image for the album, and the clients wanted the railing out. You failed hard at removing the railing. Look at this. It didn't down over here where they thought was raining as a lot of blood. You can literally see the blower, The interruption. So at this point in time, you need to admit, Yeah, I'm not good at this. I need to send this out. That's OK. And listen, we've all had it. Like, if I were in a situation like this, I was like, They want me to remove the railing. He's going to be leaning on air. You want to remove the railing? Fined $ now or this one's gonna take, at least on our And then I'm gonna farm it out to Marsha, who does all of my editing. But it's It's just not up to professional standards for editing the crop. Doesn't I know you're thinking? Oh, bald guy, distracting if you're gonna do something than just darken them down a little. But don't crop this. And also your white balance was better on the first. Now I made it grain. Well, his suit was gray. And then it was green. Yeah, the light is poor and the conversion is poor. Kept way too dark. That's nice. Yeah. Good walking. My good conversion. Um, you had a crop that way? Too much. Yeah. It's not gonna be good for much once you crops such a small area. And just like the entire print. If you want it to look like this, you've got to shoot it like this. Little overexposed. Yeah. I don't mind the style of it. I come down a little in exposure, but I but otherwise I shall I get I think you over brightened them. Yeah, there's a lot of hot stuff on their face. And you didn't need to. I mean, this is a stylistic edit that I would just never deliver in a client's gallery or on my blog's or anything like that. Now, if a client contacts you and says we want to make a water color print out of this, it's not badly done. I'm just not sure what for. I just I feel like if you want that, then go get a picture painted of yourself. Yeah, I just I don't understand why. Yeah, I mean, if if that's what you're doing, then I think it's fairly well done. I just I don't like that. It's on the same level of spot coloring. If you want a vertical chute of article when you lose the context that it's a mirror. Yeah, then it's just kind of a portrait. But it's not a portrait too abrupt use of that been yet. Yeah, I got off. It's over. Exposed in the grass is an unnatural green. And you made it to blue. Because look at his suit now. Yeah. I mean, what are you going to do with this crop? Is this a crop for an album? If so, it's a good crop. But are you delivering a crop like that to your clients? What are they gonna do with an image? Crops like that? You know what I mean? Agreed