Making Music with Apple Loops
We're gonna make a new song. We'll make a little bit of noise now on this is huge first thing that we did on what I recommend we always do what we're checking out a new app is open something up, see the way somebody else's work with it, get an idea for what should kind of be normal or status quo and, you know, learned what we could do to change it, but now we're on the opposite end kid in their dive in, make it from scratch see what we can do, so let's, look at what our options are, um, same as it was before, with a lot of the other aps main menu at the top, as long as we're launched another quick thing, those of you that are new to max sometimes this gets confusing is the way that the main menu works up here, getting my clique in the background, I'm in the back finder finders way we're able to flow and stuff, but also dig around through the mac, navigate all their options for viewing things, going to different places all there we're in logic pro ten here, when I click on the icon down...
on the dock, we see that that changes, and so it says that were active up here. That's what we want to make sure always if you're like hey, I did what travis said and I went up to the top and file and new project wasn't there looked to the left make sure that it said back sorry logic pro ten if it doesn't couple of easy things either go down to the dock just click on it again one more time or if you're sure it's open and maybe you're having to jump back and forth maybe you're checking your e mail while you're working on some stuff you want to go back and forth simple command and tab is goingto cycle you through any of them so when you get that little box over it, then you'll see it in the top menu so again, if I needed to go to something else here like this other ab expose or want to go back to the finder command and tap that's where we're going to jump through those so logic protest up under file in the main menu we see that we have a couple options here right away first option new on the other one is new from template um I want to check out new from template here just for a second force because this is a great idea here um that's weird this one had a different set up than now there we go I just wasn't scroll incorrectly my bed this is the new project from templates on dh what we're looking at here is just some differently thinking genres here basically for us hip hop elektronik songwriter or castrol multitrack music for picture and believe empty project is the final one what he's here we're going to find out in our sort of uh raw way of doing it by just filed knew we were gonna build everything that we want right but what these guys do for us here and this will take just a second I'm gonna bring up hip hop and when we do this and I choose is gonna help me save it on dh go through but we see it's brought up a bunch of tracks and we see it's got its own appearance they've done some setting up on what we'll find is when I click on any of these things I want to bring up with command k this music keyboard lets me use my normal keyboard on the laptop here has a little music keyboard this one's actually set up this one hip hop has set up with cem cem different stuff already sat in it so some instruments all ready to go including some things like a drum machine and a bunch of things that are classic sounds that's that's great you know if that's what you want to do in these air sound you're looking for a great way to go into it going close this one again it's undergoing her file close project and I'm not going to save it when I go back into look new from temple here you see that they have these for a bunch of things so elektronik is going to a lot of synthesizers some drum machines stuff like that songwriter when your shows the acoustic guitar I believe what I've looked at it before like has drum machine stuff but also some audio tracks so not just software instruments but some audio tracks so they can plug in a microphone maybe one for your acoustic guitar election guitar one for vocals things like that tracks that they assume are focused for that where somebody wants to use software incidents and samples to do orchestral music you some you know orchestral stuff for film or whatever they're doing with it this is going to bring up a lot of tracks that have you know those types of sounds with it also I believe that one pops up in with that score editor open so you know notes and status because they figure it urine orchestral music maybe you know how to use that kind of stuff rather than some of the other editors or multi track so that you know hey, I'm going to record bands I'm gonna record real drum kits and guitar players and drummers and vocals and we're going to do it all the same time this will set us up with a bunch of audio tracks with common names and some of them not named there's somebody's idea of what's a good starting place and I think that's great for some people you want to jump in and do that awesome you know see what they have for them were always definitely going we're gonna learn how we could go and change these sounds but we're not going to use these just today just now where I'm gonna have you guys dosing them in the future is once you save your own that's the best template right what's the best temple for you the one you built that when you built you know when you decide what kind of tracks you use and you know what appearances you want for stuff that's when we'll set this stuff up as a template what we'll find this folder will start getting full for you my templates mikey when you brought up before about saving some of the stuff I hadn't having it I'll be able to come back for us this is what I was talking about saving those templates this is the folder it's going to show up in this for right and when we do those it's gonna let us do some, uh changing of what's going on with it meaning that just because this template worked a certain way for somebody, it could be a little bit different based on these things down here which they're calling the details so allowing us to preset something's like let's get that musical grid on which has shown us those bars in those beats in the background the temple what do we want the default tempo to be for the song and that's gonna be huge for us in their next one on some key signature and stuff we're about to see this when we go into your file and just knew was just make something new and look what it does for us. It brings up just this one with the standard settings in the background and is telling us what would start making some tracks, right? So we're gonna bring this one in, so either by just going into new setting up that way or if you wanted to, I want to show you that also with this one here one of the options they had was on empty project, so we select empty project again can pick all these things about it key signature time signature audio input output, which will be talking a lot more tomorrow. But we're using an apogee quartets that showing up here if you were just working with headphones and getting started with some stuff you'd be able to choose something like in the output for built in output airplanes are options on there as well sample rate uh when we're talking about a sample rate for a session with how it captures digital audio couldn't do a big discussion on that one tomorrow when we actually start capturing some things like surround format so lots of cool options we could set ahead of time here if we're using the empty project one that's a good one, I guess to start with if you want to be able to change some things and bring it in all right, same idea here, though it's going to just let us know hey, what do you want to do? We got to start with some kind of a track, so our tracks we're gonna work with we're going talk much more about and when we actually start recording on some of them. But the software instrument for those virtual instruments offerings mons audio whenever we're talking about plugging into guitar, plugging in a microphone, bringing in a sample, those air, all those digital audio files that we saw them before drummer tracks brand new track where they actually have the performance engine of a real drummer playing some real drum sounds or synthetic sounds external, maybe for old drum machines and old synthesizes we want to get the sounds for and then good time based, focused audio tracks to bring up I'm going to bring up a software instrument track just so that we have something in there, it brings up a default instrument of the keyboard which we can hear again there, but we're not going to use that guy just yet fact, I'm gonna meet him just for now and this is the same idea since I came from someplace else, not from my own temp littering like that. We don't have our screen sets in here yet so close couple things. Well, just lock those down before we even get going so I'm gonna lock down the first one. I'm going to go to the second one, get rid of the inspector locked down a second, we said that we wanted to do a little bit of you with a mixer selling a go on her window and bring up the mixer and we'll lock that down as our third and then I'm gonna bring up a fourth one this time going crazy with him and this time what we're going to dio to relieve the inspector open, leave a couple of these options that we can look at the region and the track itself. Information blow this up so you can see the full screen. I want to go over here. This one we talked about before mike he was asking where it was called the loop browser, we're about to make some music with loops, and in fact let me get rid of the inspector in the library, bring up those loops right there I will lock that down his number for you guys remind me around come on four if we need to ever get back to that well that's what we're gonna do we're looking right now at our empty project one track and they're free for us to do whatever we want here got some options here a ce faras the views were picking our beets and project going to start with we'll be able to go back to custom anytime we want teo going to start with the pretty much generic view here of everything we're gonna make some music using apple loops so let me talk to guys just a little bit about apple loops makes sure we know we're talking about please you guys throw in I know you said fruity loops you'd use before right so rob's used fruity loops tell me your experience with them what how do they work ah yeah I I used three loops it's thea can't remember what version is but I used for all kinds of different things dropping in audio tracks but drum samples you know different samplers as well as um ah uh automated score you know instrumentation who leads the way to make music right yeah yeah yeah absolutely secret service you know? Yeah. I'm you guys most of us sort of nodded when I said that we use some garage band before you guys ever messed around with the apple loops in garage band a little bit at least write you know, this's these topics that it's always weird especially you know what? I'm teaching engineers that maybe you've been working for a long time on air just new to logic or even sometimes when I'm at school teaching some of my students that have used them stuff and they're like, yeah, I'm going to be taking logic somebody's in some people I don't want to say they're being negative about it, but they kind of seem like they have a certain feeling about loops and I understand it they're like I will somebody else's music right on from people who've never heard of the appaloosa before I'm about to go in a bit big explanation right now with it what they are again is pre recorded little bits of audio okay with the apples were going to see the length changes all the time as faras the number of beats in them on average, I'd say that a lot of like two bars along some of the form are some of them even longer, but the normally like little phrases so if we say it's a drum loop when's the drum pattern weatherby a hand drum or a full drum kit electronic or a real one somebody and the case you know, the folks that apple here what they've done is they've recorded a musician plain these loops for the majority of them at least either by plane really incidents they put microphones on drum kits are guitar cabinets and they have, you know, really potshot studio musicians playing these things or they're playing something like a midi controller you know something there where they could plug in us be in play and he's like a software instrument teo generate the sounds from it but what they have is a nice, edited perfect little bit in the idea of a loop while not all of them you know, specifically have to loop around perfectly, the idea is something that when it gets placed through it gets to the end of it comes back around the beginning of it sort of seamlessly goes on right on and so that's the way you think start thinking of them is that yes, there this piece of audio and sure they are created by somebody else and we're going to get jumping into looking um we got tons of them and we can go through and like so this is twelve bar blue base I click on it sure enough that's the idea says it's sixteen bits started sixteen beats and it's going to go around if I let it just go here it's gonna keep playing you sound like a bass player plane forever and ever never interrupting never really hitched to it okay again it's somebody else's music but the thing I want, I want to get us aware of his number one, we're gonna be able to change these sounds so people use apple loops all the time people use them in songs, you know, that get played on the radio, people know that herd them in songs that I've won grammys, you know, songs you hear in movies and stuff like that all you like, I know that apple loop on dh it's not I don't ever think of it as a negative thing. I'm like first of all, it only makes me think, oh, I know this song even if I've never heard it before, then I realize no, no, no, I know that part that's cool because normally what's happened with it. It's, it's a little bit different from what I heard I heard of it before we're going to go through were to start looking at ways we can find them and looked through them, we're going to see that starting right away with building our session, we're gonna have our sound a little bit different than they are for everybody else. All right, so we're expensive just really quick might be an obvious question, too, but I've used the apple loops in garage band stuff too, but there's no like copyright issue anything exactly that although you know free to you that's their whole deal with them is that they're providing stuff for us you know, a lot of other people were gonna get the negative sometimes and I don't want to say negative too much but when people seem to be like yeah, they're loops you know, there's somebody else's stuff I could just, you know, go and do that myself first of all people sample other people's music illegally all the time and put them in and that's cool somehow you know, it's still somebody else's music but these are ones that you could actually legally don't worry about it go in and use them now we're going to do a little process here we're going to show everyone how easy it is for us just you know, we've all just met we're going to make a little piece of music not necessarily song but a piece of music together and make it work and seems there were a bunch of musicians jamming together, you know? But I use apple loops all the time for a bunch of other things I just played you a bass loop, but imagine things like percussion like, you know, I don't exactly know uh, regina, what kind of music do you do normally dance pop like dance pop okay? And when you start it, what do you normally start with? Like when you're creating like what's the basis well generally it's something else creating the music going to jump in and write and sing and then you do the writing and singing on talk it okay so have you ever done like singer song or anything where you've actually started your song first of god lower lyrics yeah yeah okay so I know that's the situation I'm in a bunch of mike you know you've done that kind of thing well when we're in those situations where I've got an artisan and we work some people like we'll bring him in like okay, we're going to build a song around you and they'll start made with that garage man idea where they recorded their guitar and a vocal and we're gonna make like a dance pop song out of it you know get a four on the floor kick drum or something going with it right so you can start to have a beat and then also it's like well let's get some other prick awesome thing imagine like a tangerine or a shaker okay now where's a bunch of guitar players in here in a singer if any of us tried to do like one hundred twenty five bpm perfect little you know tampering type then go like that we could be here all day until we get a perfect little edit of it versus being able to go in here search find herself a shaker pull it over uh, you're seeing something in there, mikey tam, marine right, go to marine performed the doctrine of my volume on the way, sure enough, south been able to do some simple stuff like that. Let's, get down to some of these other ones. One question. When you're scrolling down through the different samples, can you use the up and down arrows as to go through them? So as I go into here, not only can we do that, like you will also update when it's gonna play for us a cz well, so let me quit rant about how apple loops aren't a bad thing and just get us into how we're going to search and find something saying, so I think I made it clear apple loops good and just like, just like, with the templates where I said the best templates are going to be the ones that you make if right now you're like, senator, listen, this you're thinking, yeah, I'm still not going to use apple loops remember that thing I just talked about with something as simple as a shaker or something as simple as a foreign, the floor kick drum or something like that? Well, go ahead, create it yourself, and once you've done it, we're going to talk at the end of this about how we can turn those own little bits of audio or maybe that we had into our own apple loops so if you don't like the ones that other people did great we're going to make your own category so you're gonna be able to have your own folder there like these air my apple loops so there there travis loops there mikey loops that rob leaves you know whatever they are we will have to think in that way but I'm still good I love the apple loops michael are you trapped by the tempo up now not at all thanks for leading us off here like we're going to go right and first of all these loops where I said just a moment ago that they're going to be different than whatever anyone else is doing right now in the world without pollution in our room is because it's going to be based first of all in a couple of our session parameters that we have set up and that we have control of up there and the well either in the the actual lcd appear or in one of these things called a global track that we popped open earlier at change our global track just a little bit you're gonna get rid of us leaving the same it is going to shrink this one up again we said before anything you see a line on it normally we can go and we can change the appearance just to give us the most room so the two big things that were going to notice they're going to make big changes to what we're working with here are these two global tracks again found underneath this little main area button right there if you have your help on and you go over the top of it, it will show us exactly what we're talking about what the global tracks button so in there I see two of them they're very important the signature one signature global track and the temple global track tempo and same signatures for his key and time are also displayed in our beats in project lcd selection that we have up here so I see one hundred twenty and see major for four that is our default let me also tell you guys that is the default for every single d a w that I can think of pro tools, you know, new endo q base all of them use one twenty is the default tempo and see major, which means in the world of music, there is more songs at one hundred twenty and see if you think that's just especially with the tempo people always you don't forget to change this lot of stuff does sound good at one twenty, but when we change it will notice that we have a song that doesn't sound like everybody else so we're going to go in and change those things in just a few minutes let's start this song actually, the way that I like to start a lot of stuff. So I'm going kick off our little session here by I'm gonna pick a drum loop for us. Have you guys help me? Once we get into there? So what I've got over here again, review one of those buttons we had that when we customize, uh, our display or control bar up at the top when I control, click for that, we know that emma's faras our views go on the right side view selection. We had apple loops selected if it doesn't show up, go back in there, put that up, but that little loop button showing us a little loopy q thing that brings up our loop browser spend just a couple minutes, get us familiar with what's going on with it, you guys, anything doesn't seem clear. Stop me right away, all right, top bar of it, says loops on it right now, you might open it sometimes and notice that it doesn't, and still the loops browser, but what this is going to dio has let us sort through some stuff trying to make it again easier for us to get to just what we want to do. We have you know get in the mood you wake up you're like I'm going to make my first hip hop song today I'm going to make the world's last double steps off or something like that dream on do you get through on pick out the different types genres of music? I was just kidding about that uh whatever you want to work with and it's going toe pull loops of the just those categories so they've been pre sort of categorized toe work a certain way so different genres of music plus different tools and sort of collections of loops when I was first talking to us and we said that we wanted to go in here and download that additional content loops were a lot of what was going on and what they know is that some people when logic pro ten had logic pro night and some of the older versions which had a great collection of apple loops in it all right some people are brand new to it doesn't mean that they don't deserve to have those old ones because there was great stuff in it so that's why we had some options here under apple loops toe also go back and look at some legacy stuff here okay? Yeah cool question does it specifically have to be apple loops that use with logic because for example, I've got um ah whole ton of like like propeller head e lab loops circuits and stuff like that are those things that I would be ableto possibly transfer into you know that's it's super coursing because I know in the past you've been able to use some of them I want to be able to tell you that yes, you can use most of them but I can't for sure and all honestly justcause I haven't tried it with anyone but what I can tell you for sure is that any loop anything that was playable on the other ones and it was an audio loop which a lot of them are we have included with logic pro ten we have available to us all the the loop to our sorry the loop app where we're able to go in and actually create apple loops out of them so if it doesn't play them be able to open it up and the loops you apple loops utility tool is what it's called and will be able to format it as that one and then it will for sure so they're not lost on you that's you know I know what you're worried about next question goes thanks so when we go in there guys get here with their new set up here's all those different genres where we could have picked the stuff we want but in the legacy will notice that you have some stuff that maybe didn't make sense when you're first putting it in like jam pack jam pack one jam pack those air from the very first from garage man in the first sort of extra sets of loops that we had can their older than the new ones that we have here doesn't mean that they're not useful they're great on a lot of ones that I go for come out of those early ones so I suggest to bring them in if we want to be able to jump to any of those different ones there we go we go through here if you've added new ones and you don't see them showing up like maybe you dragged a folder like of some of your other ones that's why we have this re index all apple loops of the bottom it's going to go through look for all those tags again find him where it first fitz is faras cem descriptive uh places and stuff like that here all right I like to leave it here on loops unless I know exactly and we don't know exactly what we're going to do here so let's uh let's leave our all of our options open when I click it there we'll see that we see that I did a lot of downloading last night this one showed me at the bottom when I haven't selected anyway of sort of thinning out the herd the bottom it's showing me that on this computer right now I have nineteen thousand two hundred ninety one apple loops ready to use all right, that's, great that's a lot of material just to start working. Imagine you don't need other musicians with you. You don't even need an instrument hooked up, and you can start working with some creative ideas that you have that's a ton of stuff. And when we think about also the fact that we can customize every single one of those in one way or another, it's pretty much limitless spots possibilities with that. So back to the top selecting our overall thing, we're just gonna be in loops, all options available for us. Next thing down is the first way even bill find stuff, which is just with a search any way that you want to go. So if I was typing something like drums loops, not with a d, though I need to drop that cursor before I get in, like, sorry now with my cursor, and they reckon type d and if I go in for drums, what we're going to see as they get closer, that list down in the bottom of everything starts to get a little bit more thinned down. In fact, I'm down to one thousand sixty seven loops now and this bottom list, and most of them say, drums in it or in this case and drum set, I went back to just drum that's going to give me a lot more options. So I have no things that ghost drums and monkey drums talking drums. So monkey drums one here in a monkey drum sounds like I really do. Like you said before, this is the down arrow allows teo enough owner monkey sound like that when you wake up. All right, so that is the first. The way that we could go through is if you know what type of instant you're looking for a type of it, but realized yet, you know, the sort of specific thing with it when I put it in drums anything that had drum with an s following it's, a drum set and stuff like that's going to be in there, so use that to your advantage. When you're doing some searches from stuff, maybe it'll more vague leaves letters out our ads, the other one's in there and clear that one of us were going to use a little bit different way and that is using this sort of search matrix thing that we have over here. So below are alpha numeric search there I go and two left on anything magnifying glass. I've got two buttons and that's going to change this whole panel for us and this browser for us in the way that it works ok this way which which I'm a huge fan of is sort of this button view well, what we do is we get a bunch of words on here that describes stuff I don't know if you guys see that pretty well okay, so you know things like all drums or break it down by just beat base since shakers plus we get beyond just saying what the instrument is too talking to more about like style with rock blues or urban or jazz country but then also some other descriptive things about like what's the tambor you know tone of it so acoustic relaxed, cheerful, dry some of those things other things to describe it like is it a single part or is that a full part is that you know, melodic on dh then talk about like the feel of it with again like the dark, intense processed isn't a phil? Is it a partisan texas really get down to describing some of these things and I'm just gonna make a couple quick selection so we could take a look at what it does with uh our results at the bottom but when I say okay, drums and then I go in oh say was listen to what a jazz kit is and as far as being a jazz kitt let's make it electric we see they get down to three items have gone from the nineteen thousand down into three by just putting in three little descriptive terms with buttons here so drums jazz, electric we get new jazz air b second frozen beef okay, if I want to go back in and say yeah, well, I wasn't really too sure about that click off electric get back too just so gross stick with jazz kits and see what those we're doing all right, so we got that one if I get out now get back to the drums I want to just get back to the beginning that reset button over the top is going to clear them all out for us, so if I've clicked five or six things and I don't want to go back and click them all again jumping to that reset and get back all right, same material but let's mode is going to be this way here, a panel view we're instead of having those buttons, we can look at it a little bit different soas faras going in tow all seen sort of all those different things, so he was just a list of all of like those instruments as well as some of those other descriptive terms, so if you know you're gonna be looking for something that you saw on this list fx jazz, you know, accordions alphabetical I'll jump right through it for you and as you go through the list just goes further and further off to the right so in a record ian change it at the bottom but plus I can keep going with this list to acoustic cheerful clean dark accordion tell me about it there's another doctor koreans start scott all right on dh same idea when we go we scroll back into this list and click you're going to be able to jump away from it again I said go away from it again but this is a great way to get through again moods just by the instruments themselves uh genres all that's different ways to go through and look at the list michael um how do you set thee up your favorites list oh we're going to get to that like you know it's that right now we have no favorite we're going to plan to fill this up a little bit great question we're gonna get right to it when we get back into a different view here in a second okay first of all it was talk about thinning out this list whether we're going to use the buttons here our growth in the normalised was talking about thinning down this nineteen thousand a little bit maybe where first of all scale we can say no I'm going to stick with any of them who want minor major neither good for both type of thing um that's a good way just to get it down if you know you want something that sounds very minor and you don't want to have to sort through even though that a cool name it wasn't we can say now it's making all minor or make it all major I'm good for both is another way to with both major minor um we'll probably stick with something like that and see sure enough that cuts tons of our options down so in fact for exercise we're going to stick with a full load of everything signature go with the time that's gonna be another one changes so what kind of time signature do we want with him so right now it's set again nineteen thousand loops I goto just for four cuts it down a bit so you see there's a lot of four four loops in there eighteen thousand that's what I'm going to keep out make it nice and easy on ourselves today and stick with the four four songs all right I want to switch then we saw the buttons we saw the result list down at the bottom and I don't talk about that but I also want to point this out I said that there's two big things with these apple loops that's going to be tied to what's going on and that's going to be the tempo and then uh the key so what it's gonna do for us is always play when we clicked on those accordions or I do just twelve string guitar that's playing at one twenty all we have so far but they've also been playing in that sea major because at the bottom it said what do you want hopes not doc what do you want to play for the song he so song ki or the original key that they were done in or we can pick any of the other one so right now that's it see originally it was indy so if I say playing the original key is that one but we can also go through and figure out how it sounds if it was in any of these others waken sort through and that's the way a lot of times I'll figure out I don't want to start it if I didn't already have an idea in my head or a vocal idea or some like that I might sit with the baseliner guitar parts like that and figure what should it be in so let's talk about changing it so all the loops school actually just play on the song ki who's got a key for me said a first we'll go to g afterwards so well hey first has to go great together right yeah so then I was like uh focus here over in this main area start the curse at the beginning when we go in here on the signature gonna make a little bit bigger here we go on here and we'll start at the beginning. What we could do, it's just double click downward says, see there always say we're gonna start with a a we'll leave it as major. Is that all right? All right, I will hit. Okay, now, when I go back and get these way, hear them, all of them are gonna play as long as we keep it set to song here, we're gonna let it go that way. All right? Next thing we're gonna do getting set up here is talk about the drum kit and so let's, listen to the trouble with you guys all drums, uh, pick a style of music for me. First person to say, pop. Okay, so let's go in here and was picked out of the ones the words that we have on the board here. Um, I should go with rock blues. Okay, good. So that's gonna narrow it down for us? We don't even need to pick the drum loop just yet. What I want to do pick a temple that's one hundred twenty faster or slower? Pretty much the same. Let me do this for it. Click and drag great on that number twenty eight or something more like one fifteen a bit slower. One fifteen all right, so now we've got our kisa and tempo set of one fifteen and we're gonna know is everything that we start clicking on again we haven't don't have to pick our drum leave just yet, but they're all gonna pick up right away and playing that new tempo changed the temple on the road down the way we'll change the loops along with it but as far as the starting point that's what it's going to work for with us all right? Since we're a couple minutes slow, this is probably a pretty good start stopping point for us and we come back we'll be able to go right in there and start pulling some stuff together you have any last questions we need to tie up? There were a couple questions one from bit wig and one from philip who wanted to know philip says hello from france about loops could replace loops on a separate hard disk rather than the internal one and bit wig had the same question I'd like to know how to move the content like the apple loops onto an external hard drive yeah that's totally possible on dh it's something that they've made the path for doing it I know available on the apple site they'll show you some places you got to do a little bit of searching but it's just about adding additional content to a secondary hard drive I believe is the way that you search for it there's a lot of help out there for but it's basically all we need to do is tell it once you know if we're gonna put it on a usb hard drive or something that's a lot of material that hard you know that stuff fifty six gigs and a lot of the laptops coming with smaller solid state drives it's easier to keep a lot of that stuff off of it fills up fast so absolutely there's a path that we can go through to do it you know I could talk about it but without a hard drive that I thought that's to do with some people know they can do it that's absolutely possible alright and a quick follow up from wheedle on this topic so are the kids distinguished by sound or by pattern the loop kids those air going be distinguished by both so it's you know it's going to be like the style of drum plus so rock or jazz plus we have things like is it processed? Is it distorted? You know? Is it ah, acoustic elektronik so it's a combo yeah, we're gonna be ableto stella's muchas and this goes back to that idea also we said we're going to lose the apple loop utility tool to make our own loops they give us much freedom as we want to be able to describe it. Is it cheerful? Is it dark? You know, we can tell it how it feels today isn't in a bad mood is in a good mood type of thing.