Using the Web Module and Publish Services
The maps module is another way of organizing images so you can organize images based on time you can organize them based on folders based on subjects, collections, et cetera but you can also organize them based on where you took them so that's important to be able to do that especially if you do location scouting or anything like that. So I used my iphone to take pictures on location to find locations because they're all geo tagged and then if I import them in here and I don't have my iphone with me but if I imported him into here I could see the location of those photographs on my math remember we talked on monday are you on monday about on day one about geo tags and whether or not you wanted to share them well you can you can share them with yourself here you could talk to you can see yourself where you are and where you've been this is an amazing place to, uh see images and nowhere was that place I took that picture so if you geo tagged your photos, you're able to find spots very ea...
sily here on the web and so I can go in and drill down into the united states and then I can go down to arizona and of course we don't have any of these geo tagged because they were all shot with cannon without a geo tagging system however, if you have photos that you've taken and you don't have a geo tagging system on your camera, you can download an app on to your iphone or on your whatever phone or you can get a geo tagging like a usb geo tagging little nub that we'll just stick in your pocket and it constantly is tracking your location and then light room connect. We pulled that tracking location in and tie it based on timeline to your photos that's done here in this bottom area so in the tool bar there's a little a little zigzag e mark there that is your tracking information, so if you have a geo tracker that's not on your camera, you would then take the and and I think they were looking for ah a g p x is the file type, so go out and find yourself a an iphone app or a geo tagging garment type thing that will create a g p x file if it can create a g p x file that becomes your track long and it knows everywhere you've been, it just follows you throughout the day you bring that in and put it on your computer and you click on this little tracking tag and you load that track log so you have to find it so you put it on your desktop and find it and once you bring that in it can then pair it up to any images that were shot at the same time the track law was being made, so if your camera is correctly on time and your geo track log is correct on time, they'll match up and wherever you were shooting, your track log will fit I don't want to spend a lot of time on it because that's that's that's pretty much what maps does that's it that's the map module it's so but if you have a photo that you've taken and you know where you took it, for instance, I know where all of these images were taken I can go here and say, ok, I know that all of these images were taken on the beach in california so I can go down to san diego I know where the beach was that they were taken so I can zoom down in here and say, I know that we shot all of these images where although let me find the beach that we're on well, maybe I don't know where it was there we are has mission beach so we were on missing mission beach and we literally took them right here so I can grab all of these images like this and I know that I was right here, so I grabbed him and I dragged him right there and plop them down and now and I enable geo tracking this called reverse geo tracking so when I put them there now it's going to add the actual longitude and latitude of where I wass into the coding on my so my metadata will now have the geo coding so boom now they're one hundred twelve images so then if I zoom out hair you can see now that I have one hundred twelve images that were shot in the united states on that side of the world and then if I double click um I can go in and look at him and then if I click on that it'll open it up so if I the mat module is very easy to use, just click on it scroll through find the image you're interested in double click that opens it up there and then as you're going as you do this more and more those those things will just be all over the place especially if you're using your iphone use your iphone and I put all my iphone photos into my like I have its own little catalog it's an iphone catalog and so it's a personal iphone catalog just throw all that stuff into their and so that just has tags all over the place you can't show most of those images but it just has tags all over the place and so I can see everywhere I've been and a lot of it is just simply location scouting so if your location scouting use your iphone to take the picture to remind you what this place looks like so now if you're hunting for location should be like, oh, I remember that there was this place that had trees and had grass and it had, you know, great sunset location and it had rocks over on the corner. Well, if you've keyword like we talked about on monday, you could search inside of your catalog, your your location scouting catalog you could search for rocks, grass, trees and sunset and all the pictures would show up and then you could then say, ok, in that collection, let's, go to the map module and see where they all are. Well, that's the closest location to me let's see what that looks like see how that can work so you're matt module is very useful to yourself to be able to see where you need to go to shoot your next location. It's also something that you could do if you if you tag your locations and you know, like every time you do a shoot, you just dragged that tag over toward the chute wass you dragged the images, then when these images hit your portfolio because they have the geo tagging on him now the map in your portfolio will have all sorts of geo tags on it because you've geo tagged him immediately that's part of your work flow so you work on a library you select your images and then once you selected him you key word of and then once you key word I'm just go to the mat module highlight your images and drag them to where they were on the mat module that's it's really simple you want to be like really specific just drive himto where you were and then then export those images and if you do that then you will have a portfolio with all sorts of geo tagging information on it so you will find locate she's really easily because you'll know was that what street corner was that on and I had that cool oh it's right there very easy to find okay all right so that's the map module it's very fairly self explanatory you've got over here collections just like everywhere else but instead of presets you have locations so you can create specific locations so that if you you know are constantly looking at a specific location right there there let's say we're constantly looking at a location then we can always just say save this location and then see how I create a radius there so I can say I want the radius to be you know smaller bigger that's my location name the location and save it that way you can constantly go if you want to look a tw location in arizona you click on arizona if you want to look at your location in chandler you look chandler if you want to look at budapest you look at budapest so okay that's the mom matt module there's not much more to it than that but it's a great way to log on and find your images ok, so it is time for us to go to the web module so before we go the web module excuse me before we go to the web module we're going to choose a set of photos so we'll go to the or lonnie wedding again and we're going to choose our favor images and so most of the time the web web module for me is utilized in corporate portrait's and things like that because for a wedding I'm posting images on picked taj picked taj is in showing them to the clients and the clients ordering prints from picked taj then of course, the clients getting a book approved book so they could look through that offline and that's how they're seeing those images so I don't have any need for putting something on the web for a wedding in a web page type of situation I just don't have that need, but for a corporate client where they're looking at ten photos they're going to choose one I will re touch it and then I will send them the digital file that's a very different ballgame putting that on picked taj doesn't make any sense because it's it's it's a quick decision two quick at it and they're never going to order anything from picked taj they're always going to just get the digital file for their pr purposes and stuff like that, so in that case I'm going to create a web page for them but I don't want it to take me any time so the way we do this and we're just going to pretend that this is a corporate client instead of a wedding. But if for some reason I needed to post these up really quickly for them to select one two maybe print or something like that I would first collapse the stacks you gotta go to the photo menu, go to stacking and collapse all the stacks because you only want to look at the top one from every stack. Then I would go over to the web module and in the web module is where I will make that quick web page for them to review and look at the images so let's review the web module really quickly you have a preview that shows you what your website will look like you have a template that template browser allows you to save what whenever you set this web up and you like it, save it as a template and then from there on out you're good to go and you'll just have to click it so for instance with me I'm going to come down I don't want the light room templates I want my platt web templates and so I'm just going to do a clean white and there we go there's my clean white or I could do a flash there's a flash a slide show version so this is how it shows up and then they would just click through the slide show or they could hit play or I could do ah another flash one that has, you know, a different look to it, so I'm going to go with the clean white one so that the client could just quickly scroll through and choose an image and if they click on an image, then it's going to show like this obviously it's a little weird we're looking at this a little bit bigger than because this I'm not a different resolution now in order to fit on the screen so it's they'll see the whole thing. This is just looks very big in this in the screen because we're kind of in a smaller resolution here but this is what I look like and you have certain options here like studio names site title, my photographs, accenture, etcetera so you khun put all that together so we're going to go out back to the main page on and next so there's weather and that's why the index looks and I'm going to then choose all the options over here so in the options you have the layout style, those there are there are plugging website engines that you can purchase or download for free and the place to find those is the adobe exchange. So if you go to the adobe exchange and you confined, just just type in layout styles, web or web plug ins or things like that and you'll find a bunch of these things and you've got all these interesting, like airtight postcard viewers pretty interesting it does that so then you you click on one and it seemed like zooms into him it's really quite cool so that's that's that's an interesting one andi you just kind of scroll through the images to navigate him so that's that's a cool on and then there's other, you know, airtight simple viewer you know just just different ways to look at it but their engines that have to be installed in order to run this kind of stuff and there are even ones that will literally create an entire web page for you the front page, the back page that the info page like they're some that in light room you literally could create an entire web page from it so there's a lot of options out there just go to the adobe exchange and search for him and you'll find lots of interesting options for me I'm just looking for something simple that my client can look at and so I'm just going to click here that's what they're going to look at and then they will decide based on what they see here they'll look and they'll say I want image number five four three two and then I'm going to print that for them so that's what we're looking to do so in that case will go to the site title first that's where we're going to put in whatever the client's name is so we're going to say ortolani wedding so that's the site title site description oh and collection my photographs would be a salt flats shoot so studio name comes from here in the identity plate and so if you click on here and choose your toe edit that you can then type in the name of your studio so platt photography and then of course changed you know how we wanted to look on dh then you're going to go to the description and in the description I generally like to say something like please email me your image selection numbers there like that so the client's going to come in and see this and it's going to see sea it's platt photography they're going to see it's their name they're going to see and then of course email how do you contact me? I want uh I want to go by email and I'm going to say email is info at platte photography dot com so now the bottom see that you've got an in foley an email link down there and so that's it or you could just say email me saying see there's the link right there email me and then you have to do you have to put the actual email right here its web minutes mail too colon and then the web no space and just your your email address ok? And then ah you're going to do your identity plate you've already done up here and now here's where you would choose all of your color palette something like that you have questions just a quick question in the preview pane I see html so that's is your html being written behind there and you can grab your html no if you want to grab the html you'd have first have toe export the web page and then grabbed the aged email so but it is creating edged email there's there's two there's html and then there's flash so it's making to you could make two different types so the flash does interesting stuff, but the html I think better if you want to use it for s e a l because this is not making flash websites that that can be seen by google's so really you're better off if you make html sites for snl purposes all right, so down here you can change the text colors the detail and again, if you were to click on background and grab onto I could choose a background based on the images so you could do something like that, so just be aware that you have the option of choosing colors within the images for these things andi you also have, you know, adding drop shadows, borders and then here's where you would choose how big this web page gets. So do you want a grid of four three? You know how? But I guess it won't let me do for but, you know, see, I can change how many images are on that grid so I could do that I can do this. So now we've got a much smaller website and notice how it's created new pages down here, so it's it's it knows I've got x number of images, so I mean that's create x number of pages to fill it. Um, you have I don't know I have a hard time with these cell numbers if you don't rename the images, so if you're going to do this, rename the images one through one hundred so that these cell numbers are one, three hundred because the client we'll see this and they'll see that big one and think that's image number one. But watch what happens when I click it it's actually image five, four zero three and the last thing you want to do is have the clients ally image number twelve. And you have to go to your own web site to see what image number twelve is and then figure out what you just want to say. Image number twelve. Okay, open up your catalog image number twelve, so just make sure they match so you'd first renamed the images and then run him through here so that you have image one would be image one image to that way, the clients, these big numbers and they see zero zero zero one here. So, it's, just just a little tip there when you're dealing with it. And then, of course, you have the ability to add the information here on this page. So this is the m o it image info page. You have the ability to put the file name on it here, and you also can change this, too. So notice above it is the title. This is the title. So right now we're using the file name and below it is the file name as well, but this is the caption. So if I had done something else I could I could do a rating there so then you would see it's got a rating number one through five and if there was a rating on it it would give it right here or I can do the custom text or I could do the date all right? You know there's also what equipment the exposure you know? So if I wanted to show people what the exposure was, this is one thousandth of a second at five six ok? So for those of you who are interested in that information um, so anyway, I generally will put the file name in both places so that they doesn't matter where they look they're going to see the same info because generally clients don't know where to find information and and get frustrated and so you just give him a cz many opportunities to succeed as possible because they're not used to looking at this kind of information that look remember you're the professional photographer and then your clients are unprofessional not not that they're unprofessional but they're not professional photographers and so they're not used to looking at images, which means you have to make the process of looking at images as easy as possible because they're not used to it and so they will always be slow at it and they will always make mistakes at it if you make it difficult which is why I use picked taj because that's a simple process I use proof books because that's a simple process so if someone doesn't want to be online they can look at a proof book so they haven't offline option everything has to be as easy as possible all right and then of course at the bottom you khun watermark all your images to so if you have your images here turn on the water marking option and now you khun you know have and let's choose say uh the there's a logo so now you can see platte photography is on there of course I probably want to use a black logo uh when I'm dealing with salt as my general area so let's do of black logo and now I've got you know platt started here in the black so at the bottom oh and here's sharpening that sharpening is important on the web so I will always add a little sharpening to my images on the web just a little bit the lowest sharpening because it just helps toe pop the image every time you put it on the lab it just gets a little softer so I always add a little bit of web sharpening on day at the bottom is your upload settings your upload settings or based on your ftp server settings if you don't know what that means then you need to talk to somebody that's that knows your system so you always if you have a legitimate web page, you always have an ftp server attached to it and that's where you would put stuff that you wanted people to download or to see and so for instance, on my if I have jared platt dot com, if I throw something on the ftp server and a folder called photos, then jared platt dot com for such photos would actually have you would open it up and that's where it would be so like that forward slash whatever is in that ft people there any folder that's in your ftp folder is is the folder you create here is that ford slash and then folder and so what you need to know is you need to know your settings you need to know where to go. Oh, like what your ftp server name is and you need to know your password once you know those things you need to know, how did you need to know what name you want and deliver it there? And then you just that pathway is going to be what you send to your clients you say hey, go to platt photography, dot com forward slash and then whatever their name is and that will let them in to see those photos and they're not password protected but no one's going to know what to search for if you put a unique name so that's what you're going to do here so you and by the way you can have multiple ftp servers so if you have like I have flat feet ah graffiti dot com and jared platt dot com and platt store dot com like different dot com's for different purposes and so if it's plateau graffiti client I'll put it there something I want to be on jared platt dot com and can put it there and so the's air the customs settings here so you can see jared platt review if I click on that then it's setting me up for specific area toe upload images on a specific ftp server and you can set those up by hitting edit and when you hit at it you're going to have a dialogue box that has all the information about your ftp server and about your about your, uh, password and all that kind of stuff is going to be in there but that's it's a complicated menu and you need to know your ftp information to put it in but once you have your ftp information to put it in it's not difficult just fill it in and then light room will literally upload it for you so I'll make this web page and I'll hit upload based on this preset so if I want client deliveries then it's going to go to deliveries slash photos and simon hit upload and it's gonna upload it to that specific place okay now I'm again and then the reason I'm not showing the ftp server window right now is because I don't want my personal information all out there but it's it's easy enough to know what to put in there if you have had a conversation with your I t person who knows about your server stuff all right so just just be aware that you have to actually have a conversation with your web provider not with me not with photo friend not on it talk to the person that runs your website they're the ones that are going to know what to put in there once you put it in you never had to put it in again and you just choose the location you want to go to and then name the folder and that name of that folder is going to be the final location name forward slash something that's going to be the name and so here you would say assault flat and no space is by the way shoot so salt flat shoot that would if that's going to be the name that would be it be ford slashed salt flat shoes with gas is in between when you do that and hit up loads going upload it directly there you don't even have to have any kind of ftp program to do it and it's done and it will be live if on the other hand you don't have that information or you don't want to tie of light room up loading something you can also export it if you export it you get to choose a folder where it's going to go so if we were going to put this on the desktop I could say salt flat shoot and hit save and it's going to export right now it's exporting the html and the photos to go with the aged amulets packaging it all into one folder that will have the html and all the photos and all the thumbnails perfectly set up and all you have to do is take that folder and drag it onto your ftp server as well you could do it that way or you could take that folder and drag it onto it cd and give it to somebody and they can run a web page on a disk all they have to do is open up that folder and click on the index html like the first html and it will open up a web page and the web browser will look at the disk and serve up from the disk so it doesn't even have to be online but it looks like it's online but it's not it's on the desk all right that's the web module in a nutshell those are the types of things that you can do with it but I wanted to talk also about other web options because we're not just sharing images in fact less and less are we sharing images through web pages? I have a great portfolio site live books is a great portfolio site, they do a great job, but that's kind of like the master portfolio, but I also have a blogged and the blawg because it's got so much text on it and it gets new photos all the time, it actually gets pretty good asio because the block a lot of people are just doing boggs now it's just a block site and they don't worry about having a portfolio site, they just have a blogging site and that's fine too, and then a lot of people are on facebook. I know people there just on face because there anybody here that's just on facebook, that's how you okay? So I know some people just on facebook and that's all they do is share images on facebook and that's, how you contact him and that's, how they post your images and just facebook so well, there's a lot of ways to share those images and so understanding that there are options in in light room to share images through facebook and twitter and and, you know all those types of things, so what we're going to do is we're going to go down to publish services published services or a way of sharing images on the web or even on your disc anywhere immediately, rather than having to go through some rather than me having toe put some images on my desktop and then upload them to facebook, I can actually share them on facebook from this catalog. So if I go to basically a published service is and I'm going to show you a disc one first, so we're going to make a local published service if I click on a published service, I'm doing the hard drive version and I can name it, so we're going to name this one, uh, drop box so I can set up one on a drop box. I have a drop box. Does everybody know what drop on his great great system? So if I wanted to create a a public folder on a drop box that I gave anybody access to or gave a certain person access to, in fact, I have clients commercial clients that I just set up a drop box for them, and then I every time we're working on something I just dragging into the drop box, and it just publishes to the drop box and then they grab stuff from the drop box and pull it out and they work on stuff and then if they need to send something to me, we just keep running back and forth through the drop box, so in this case, I could say drop box, I could say, uh, phoenix dropbox ok, so if I'm working with the phoenix symphony dropbox, I can create a phoenix symphony drop box, but I already have a phoenix symphony drop bunk, so I'm just gonna make a phoenix dropbox, so if I was working for the city of phoenix, I have a drop box, so city of phoenix drop box, and then I'm going to change the actual folder locations, so in this case, I'll go to my dropbox, create a new folder, and we're going to call this phoenix actually just say phoenix city okay, so now I've chosen that, so now all of my images will go too the phoenix city dropbox I don't need to put a sub folder, but I can if I want to, and then I'm going to either rename or not rename the files. I don't want to rename files that generally don't like renamed files unless I'm doing something on the web, and then I'd be renaming it to file name with a custom name so that it's aiken type them ceo type information there so in this case because it's a client I'm gonna not have it renamed I don't want to include the video files that maybe there or maybe I do depending on whether you're doing video or not and then I'm going to send them full resolution j pegs but I'm going to make them smaller so that they can just kind of look at him really quickly so long dimension of say twenty four hundred pixels seventy two d p ay that gives him enough to kind of look in zoom in on it on dh then I'm going to water mark them all as f p o f p o stands for four position on lee so that if you're working with a client they understand that stamped on their says f p o so that they know this isn't the final file and I should not send it out it's it would be against their contract to send out the fbo and use it they need to come back to me to get the final files that I have the ability to retouch it and get it ready and whatever for them it's just for design purposes only right now so that's what people stands for okay or or for placement on li'i I don't know which one it actually is but for position on lee for placement only either one but f p o let's the designer know that this is just for placing it okay so if that's what I'm gonna do I hit save and now I have a drop box here city of phoenix say that phoenix city so then if I grab this and this is what I'm sending to them I grab the image and I drag it into that folder and now one image is in there and let's let's do a couple images so let's do this one as well so now I've got two folders in their two images in there and if I click on it it's the same as a collection so it feels just like a collection it's virtual this doesn't this doesn't really exist once I publish it it will exist somewhere else but this is still virtual the thing we're looking at now and always will be virtual but it knows where it's sending it and it can pay attention to that folder so in this case I come over to this and I publish it or you can right click on a on a published folder and and then you khun say published now so if I published now it's actually making that j peg and notice how it sent the new published scene out both of our published photos then if I decided at one point oh I want to change this image to black and white or something like that so let's say I was back inside of my close these collections if I was back inside of this ortolani wedding hold on, then we go back here and choose this. So why is back inside the ortolani wedding? And I was working on this image, and I had turned it from color to black and white. So now that's, a black and white cp atoned image. If I go back to the published service, you'll see that this one is published, but this one has been modified and needs to be republished in order to synchronized what's over there. So light room is paying attention to what you're doing to the photos that you've published and it's paying attention to what's in the photo over here so that it synchronizes among so I'm going to hit publish again and now it's replacing taking that old j peg and thrown it away and putting the new j peg in there. So the client's always going to have access to the most recent, uh, generations of the images so there's a great way for you to be working, and the client is just the client will be notified every time something changes. And so when, when you put new images in it or when you change images, a little thing will come up and say, hey, new images just came into your drop box, so then they can go and look at him and see what's happening. And in this case, if I say I you know, I really don't want them to see that image anymore that that was not being selected if I delete it's not deleting it from my hard drive it's just deleting it from this published collection so if I click the league now it's saying here is the images that are published to the so the folder and here's the images that need to be removed in order for us to be synchronized and when I hit published its going to that folder and deleting it so has has access to that ok, so that's the way you would work in a disk situation and because you can use drop boxes, your disk or even better, you can also use your creative cloud, so if you're on the creative cloud, you don't even need dropbox because you have creative cloud folder as well and operates very much like a drop box, but it also has the ability so if you're on the creative cloud, you have access to all of the latest and greatest adobe products and you have access to a bunch of web services and one of those web services is the creative cloud space where you can put photos and then you khun invite people to look at those photos and one of the great things you can do is you can if I upload a psd that has layers on the web I can turn on and off the layers and then my clients can comment on those images so it's a collaborative area toe work but you khun create because it's a dropbox type of situation when you go to your folders you can see access to it see that so all those air all files that I have on my creative cloud and I'm working on him so I've got you know, business cards and I've got you know, all sorts of things on there okay? So all of that is available on the creative cloud and and I can just because it's a it's on my desktop is well it synchronizes and so I can go in here and I could create a creative cloud dropbox are published service and that way I could just be sharing stuff from my catalog directly the creative cloud and it's just going there ok? So those are the ways that you can deal with a disc type of situation but still be on the web you're still pushing it out to the web for people to be able to use now going to facebook and flickers also very useful and so we're just going to set up a facebook one and I don't know how far we'll go with it but because I don't want to go on to facebook because I don't know what I'll see and then we'll get in trouble so anyway but in facebook the same issue occurs where you type in whatever you know whatever you want that to be so you could say on the road you know, so these air photos that would go into you're on the road albums and then you would click authorized on facebook and you'd entering your facebook information and then here is where you would choose your facebook album like where you wanted it to go and then you would choose the titles so you can actually tell facebook to title it based on the information that's already in the photo for instance the title or the file name I would prefer to call it the title remember the title is that it's that short description holding the title is the short description here right there so it's inside of the metadata area there's title and caption title is something like groom on old chair in the salt flats so that would be a good title right? You might put salt flats comment utah or something like that so that title would then become the title to your facebook post so let's go back to setting up one of these s o that's how you would name stuff on dh then you can tell it when you're updating the photo what do you want to do? Do you want to replace the existing title and you want to leave the existing title? You can rename it and so in this case, you'd want to rename it on dh remember your renaming everything that's being dragged into this folder into this published service so you can't name it individually based on each image because each image that you throw in is going to get the same name, so what you'd probably rather do is do a file name so you would edit the naming uh uh, the template for the name and say file name dash and then go for something like, uh title that would be a good way to go so title so it's going to take that title as the file name and it's going to do file name o o one and then it's going to say groom and the groom on salt flats in utah or whatever that's going to be the name of your file which means that google confined it because there's name information in the file name if you just have images on the web that are zeros is there one dot j peg google's not seeing them? You care about him, you've got to put some kind of identity identifying text into the name of the file itself. And so this is an automated way to name file file name which would be just the numbers and then title and then if you go and entitle it than and and you can bowl title, it so you can you can see out, says groom on old chair in salt flats on day of course, if you in your in your preferences if you turn on the file handling if you tell it if you see a space I put a dash or an underscore than any where you put a space is goingto sending it out so I was going to put underscores there or always going put dashes so you won't run into the issue of sending out stuff of spaces and because the web can see a space so if you if you do that then everything you send out and you khun bulk update these things so you can you can click on all the images from this photo shoot the whole the whole set and then you can go into the title and type you know wedding wedding portrait shoe on salt flats in utah and now all of them will have the same title and so when you upload himto facebook it's going to say, oh one and then that title o two and then that title so now google concede that there's a bunch of images here from the salt flats of a wedding portrait done okay, all right, so coming back here setting up more facebook um you can set the image quality the image size typical size going to facebook is nine hundred eighty pixels, so um, you can sharpen it just a little bit, you can add a little metadata and then always my water market remember, if you don't want people to know where you are, remove the location information on the way out and every image that you drag into this published service is either going to remove it or leave that information is to the location of your of your photo and then always watermark. It was something so that wherever it is, your logo is showing up, so people know how to get ahold of you, they know who shot it and then just create that, and then it will work the same way as a published service to a hard drive. You drag something into it, and then you publish it and when you publish it it's going to go to facebook. But the difference on facebook and flicker and other types of social networking sites is that at the bottom there's a comments area and that comments area is tied to facebook. And so when people comment on your facebook photo, it will show up in the commentary here on your light room so you won't have to check facebook to see what people think about the image you just click on the image, go down to the comments and you'll be able to see that their conference on it and you can read them all ok, so those air those air the options for using published services now just so that you know that you can think outside the box, there are ways to use published services that are even more helpful, like, for instance, if you create a published service that publishes to the photos area on your mac when you put when you plug in your iphone or when you plug in your ipad, you can tell your ipad to synchronize with that folder. And so now you can just publish stuff to your iphone or to your ipad simply by dragging it into a published service, and it will be on your ipad because your ipad, any time you synchronize it is dragging from that photos folder all the images that it's going to show so that's how I keep my portfolio on my ipad up today is by simply export are having a public service in my portfolio catalog that I drag images too. So if I have a bunch of new images that I like, drag him into that published service and publish it and the next time I synchronize my iphone or the next time I seen griffith knives my ipad, I have those new images from portfolio, and if I decide at any one point I can go into that published service and scan through and go, which ones don't I want anymore? And click on the few that I think of those are old, they don't need a delete him, it removes them from the published service the next time everything synchronizes the ipad, it pulls them off of the ipad ok, so there are ways to utilize this beyond just putting them and and the same folder that goes onto my ipad is the same folder that gets used for the slide show screen saver so that when I'm talking to my clients in the office and their screens behind me, those screens air showing from that folder so I can always keep that folder up today based on just doing a public service. Okay, so publishers are really important and and we did a whole two hour segment on published services here on creative live in a photo shop week. So if you if you really like the idea of published services, grab that two hour segment because it's it's really detailed about how to do it and we should we go through the whole thing and show you how to do it. So public services are excellent way to share your images on the left as well, not just in your in that basic uh web page format, so I think we're getting away from white pages to it great extent or that or or web services and pages that are are trying to become less websites and mme or social media type things and so and I still think there's a really good uh need for a portfolio site because you need someplace you can show people this is who I am as a photographer this is the these are the images that represent me I think that's important, I think blog's are a little too chatty to be an official place to showcase your work and I use the published service to go to flicker and I'm always having trouble synchronizing because I deleted things in flicker and then I find the public services republishing all the stuff that I deleted where's the best place to should be doing my deletions just in one place in the public service or on frico. Unfortunately, I have no idea about flicker because I had never used it I believe at one point when it first came around, I set up an account thinking that that it was what I was supposed to do and then I just never saw the point in it, so I never did it, so I can't tell you much on the flicker side. But what I will tell you is if you're publishing tio a service, use the service and use light room, tow unpublished or republish or change the images don't be doing in both places because then you're yeah you're messing with light rooms head it doesn't know what you're doing outside of itself s o if you're in the habit of publishing to flicker, always do it from the same place always do it from lighter questions. Yeah, before, maybe before we leave facebook, I had no idea that we were able tio see the comments and on everything that you've been talking about and facebook all of this with you, and then you can set up facebook you can have twenty five different published services on facebook, each one to a different, you know, like you can have your favor images as an album and could have a different album called on the road and another album, nickeled and you've been published to those and you can have, like I could have ah facebook publication folder here on my laptop, and then I can have another one on my portfolio, and each one can be completely independent of the others and it's just publishing to that specific album, and so I can on having on the road here because that's, where I always have this on the road and then went home, I have, you know, my favorite, you know, like cool images from the past or something, and I just occasionally I'll just grab an image from the past going through my portfolio and I'll see something that's cool and I just grab it and drag it in there and published and that without even thinking I'm able to publish a cool photo that day from like you know, two thousand one that I think it's funny or interesting and then suddenly have something some content running up there that people can look at and I didn't even have to go to facebook to do it so that's a really useful way to go so cool so cool what we had a few questions about posting to your business page as well as your personal page if you can link with multiple accounts and how that works well you just set up a new public service for each account like I can set up a cz many accounts is I want here I just need to set up a new published service because it's always going to go to the same place each one of these little locations right here goes to the same place so it goes to the same facebook account because it's you logged in as that but if you create a new facebook published service then you could create it could be a london is a different account so you can chew pick and choose that so in the past there's been some issues with facebook in that you could only published to your personal page and not necessarily to your business page I'm told that now that glitch has been solved but as I haven't tried it to know whether or not that is she's solved, but I'm told that now you can publish to either the business page or to the personal page, you just have to choose the right album that's in that particular whether it's in your business page your regular page but there's also facebook publication plug ins that you can get and one is called well, I mentioned it on the when we talked about published services that photo shop week and I'm spacing on the name right now, but I'll figure it out and after lunch I'll mention it but anyway there's a guy that makes a really great facebook publishing plug in that that will publish to facebook it'll published a twitter it'll publish like it does this guy's got some knockout cool stuff question from marion in bucharest, romania kind of close in the night and walls and a closed close she can come yeah oh yeah, she can come hey, is there any way to keep any new published service that I set up when I make a new catalog and there's a couple of questions about different catalogs and published services jumping? Can we preset that so you you don't make presets for it, so you're not going to actually make a preset that suddenly does a publication but the publication services inside of your catalog that's where we are, so this catalog will always have this publication service so that this is why I advocate the need for a working and a portfolio catalog if you are going to be in the habit of sharing stuff right while you're working on it you need to have all your public services in one catalog that would then have you know all your images coming in and out of it because if you don't you keep having to reset those things up you know I mean you'll notice that right now I have no published services I came into this catalog with no public services why? Because I just made this catalog for our course so there are no published services in it so if you go to your standard working catalog there will be published services in it and if you bring images in and then send them out the public services will always stay together they will always be there and then you can just published to him now one of the shortfalls of doing it a working catalog where something comes in and then leaves is that if you've published to a published service and then you get rid of the files you don't have the ability to start messing around that you can still go to the public service and see what was published but no longer do you have the ability to change those photos and republish them so that's why for me I have an on the road type of publish and then I have at home the portfolio published and I say at home but it's it's actually in the bag right over here I have my my portfolios on a portable drive this big, so no matter where I am, I can plug it in and I can take it with me and the catalog is on the drive, the photos air on the drive and I can move it around with me so my portfolio goes around with me wherever I am, so if I plug that in and turn on my portfolio, I will have published services available to me and they're always there because of the catalogs not changing so that I can't stress enough how important it is to have stable catalogs, not creating new ones all over the place get your catalog situated the way you like it and then start bringing stuff into it as opposed to making a new one every time because you just it just becomes a mess thie only time you make an individual catalog for a job is when you're finished with the job you're getting rid of the job and you're archiving and that's when it becomes its own catalog because you're never going to look at it again hopefully so that's my advice on that simone chaos, how how do you recommend working with the retouching service work with them through public service is too broad dropbox or through export images and catalog ins at them and then upload them to the tpc dropbox. John knox anytime I have someone at an image, I love doing it through dropbox now shoot dot ad it is my post production house and I actually haven't they haven't uploaded tool, so I'm putting images into the folder of the job folder and then I'm going to their tool and uploading it and it uploads to them it's pretty fast uploading tools, so I'm getting is that? But if I'm just sending one image to someone to retouch or something, I'm the drop boxes that is my favorite way to do it. Although most big postproduction houses have their own uploading tools and they want you to follow that pipeline because otherwise it if they had, if they had to go to twenty different pipelines and go to some that this guy wants to use drop box and that guy wants to use a creative cloud and this guy wants to you, it would just they would they would have to charge it ten times as much money for the amount of time that would burn on there. So in that case, what I would if it's an independent re toucher use drop box if it's a company they're going to want you to use you they're pipeline is understandable, great well and we thanks to someone in the chat room, I think its photographic elements thank you. The person who did the light room plug in for exporting to facebook was jeffrey freedom. There we go. Thiss r e x dot info for its loss blogged for its last light room dash goodies that that's it that's the one you put that in the chat rooms and stuff because that's that's that guy right now, that makes some pretty amazing things. And there's also photographers toolbox is another one google that one do photographers, toolbox, lighter implosions, google that and those guys there's like four guys on that site that make really good plug ins. So plug ins or fun? I don't look for plug ins all day long, you know, testing now this one's crap that was good, but they're all of those guys make a really great plains. Awesome, cool going back bhd have asked that going back to where you're talking about the plug ins for the web sites, there are thousands of them on the adobe cite any any way that you would give advice as to how to best search for the ones that you might like, or they're anyone's that you would throw what I would do is I would try and narrow your search to very specific terms and see if those come up. But really, there are thousands, and so it it can take a while to find them. But if you just search specific things that you're looking for, like ad key words into the search, you'll you'll parrot down a little bit better. So I'm one more question going back. Tio books, really, before we close, same cox had a great question when I created a saved book, and the book module is the book saved in the catalog, and if so, will that. But come along when I export that job. As a catalog, write the book has saved in the cattle, said so. As long as you have the catalogue, you have the book. If you don't have the catalogue, if you just have a bunch of the ngos, you don't have a book quote. Catalog has the book.