Text Wrapping and Attributes
And jump over to this one here just a big blank document that we have and I'm just going toe use my type tool creator newt text frame and I'm going to use our keyboard shortcut that we came up with yesterday to fill with placeholder text just our f two keyboard shortcut if you don't have one it's up under the tight menu down at the bottom filled with placeholder text but we used a keyboard shortcut to add that so we don't have to use the menu anymore first I want talk about or some of the special characters that we have in design and one of them is called invisibles so did you command option I or control all eye on a pc it should bring it up and it didn't lead to actually come over here then we're going to come over here to edit and I'm sorry view and we're going to show our invisibles that's what we're going to extras and we're going to come in here and it's totally missing as well I'm going to figure out where this is this one of those things where I have the keyboard shortcut and th...
en you know I can't find it when I actually need it come down to type under high didn't hide and show couldn't characters they're actually already on they did turn on with my keyboard shortcut I apologize so command option I as I said or control shift I did actually turn them on and off, but we couldn't actually see it. I want to zoom in because it's really hard to see these what I'm looking for are these invisibles, these little blue characters, so that just shows me that there's a space there, so we zoom back out a little bit so I can zoom around, we're going actually look at a paragraph return, we're going to do what I told you not to do yesterday, those extra hard returns did those, but I actually want to show you what the invisibles look like when I do that. So what the point of those are just to show me the formatting that's there? This is really handy if you're, for instance, looking for something, you're trying to figure out why this space looks too big and you realize there's two dots there two spaces that because somebody got a little crazy with their space bar and added those in. So those are what your hidden characters are hidden characters air just showing you all the formatting that's in there. This is also really helpful if someone has decided instead to do ah hard return and done what we call a softer turn by hitting shift return, it makes it look like a new paragraph, but it isn't a new paradise when we could tell that by this particular this particular symbol that's here and so what that might tell me is I'm looking at going why is this paragraph not working? There should be space after this paragraph from yesterday we put in extra space before after a paragraph well, I'm looking at and thinking why isn't there that extra space and that's because it's not actually a new paragraph so that's something to keep in mind so I turn invisible when I'm tryingto kind of be a detective and figure out what what is different in here it's usually because I've brought in somebody else's text it's not usually my own text that I've done that with I said I'm going to actually delete that and hit a hard returns I could see that again so those air the invisibles that air there so going to turn those on and off as needed and as we discovered this morning it's under the tight menu hide hidden characters one of those things that you forget where it lives when you know the keyboard shortcut and when it doesn't work throws you off a little bit the other one are glimpse so ge lips are just a fancy way of saying a character that's in a font and I talked yesterday about the different types of fonts, true type fonts and open type fonts one of the things that is so great about open headphones and there's a lot of them I talked about compatibility between mac and pc being the exact same fund the other thing is that they can contain huge numbers of ge lifts in fact an open type font can contain sixty five thousand glitz and if you want to that's a really big font I don't know if any fun actually has that many but what cliffs are all the special characters all the regular characters letters, numbers, punctuation all that that all those funky characters that you just don't even know they're four and some of them might be little symbols things like that so I wanted to his open up the glitz panel so I'm going to go under the window menu, which is where most of our panels live and I'm going to come down to type and tables and shoes glimpse and I'm going to get the glitz panel for the current font that I'm in so I come down here and look, I have trevi shea showing that's the font that we're actually working in so it automatically opens up the font for the gloves panel for that particular font what I'm doing is I'm going to select this text and I want to change it to something else I want to change it to something that I know has more more groups available let's do adobe castle on pro a lot of the pro fonts are the profiles are actually loaded by adobe and those are open type funds and they come within design that's why you suddenly have all these pro fonts that air here because you installed in design, but I put that in there because I know that there's a lot of cliffs in this particular font so I can come over here to the glitz panel and choose which cliff sets I'm showing right? I'm showing the entire font prefer look there's all these individual sets that air here let's look and see what math symbols are included with this font there's a few there's not a lot, but it's a nice way to find instant scrolling through the entire font I have the entire phone turned on I have to scroll through all these fonts to find what I'm looking for that's actually quite a few maybe I know for instance, I want to look for currency symbols only so I could be that I can see all the different currencies symbols that are available and if you notice, I've got two of each of the two cents of it two euros eso what that is or just the different formats that air there some of them are called old style I feel familiar with old style numerals at all they're smaller and usually set just below the baseline a little bit and so these air different variations of the same symbol depending what fought you're using for everything else let's, grab one hair let's, just grab our let's just go with symbols and see we have available here's our trademark symbol that's kind of handy there is a keyboard shortcut for trademark symbol, but some of them don't have keyboard shortcuts or maybe we can't remember them. So if I wanted to put a trademark symbol right here after the word spirit, I would just come over here to where I find it in the glitz panel and double click it and it automatically puts it in there. The nice thing is it is super scripted and it's it's smaller and higher off the baseline, but the next thing that I type won't be no just type something else you know is it goes right back to normal. We just inserted that gl if it doesn't affect all the fonts that after the that so I could do that with any symbols that I like. I do that a lot of times what I'm doing prices let's come over here and we'll make another text frame and that will be adobe castle on pro is well and I could just say, ok, I'm ready to do pricing let's go ahead and put currency on there and obviously know the dollar sign is I can probably handle that, so I was going to put a dollar sign here and we'll put that it's two dollars and now we need to decide what else we have we have the pound symbol let's do that and then so it's a let's make it three pounds all right? And we'll do some euro conversions this is like my maps yesterday don't actually use this for currency conversions because I'm making all of this up and we could put that in there as well so what I can do though once I've done that you notice they all appear appear in the symbol set up here the dollar sign doesn't cause I actually just typed it in but I can see one that I've used recent this is nice because as I go back and I need to put the pound symbol again, I can have the whole fun turned on I don't have actually scroll down to find it I could just double click it from my recently used to set their thing you could do is create glitch sets and that's really nice and they're going to be based on the font that used of course. So keep in mind if I suddenly start typing in tribute shea and amusing the's fonts that they just used it's going to be putting in the version of the adobe castle on pro one instead but I can't keep sets I can add a new set so let's go ahead and new do a new glitch set and we'll call this one currency and I can start adding the sets to them. So if I have this here, aiken, choose this and then I can add that symbol to the set so let's add to the globe set currency and I can also afford to do that one let's do the euro. We could add that to the glove set as well, but it exists in that one. Maybe we had it hadn't added that one let's, add that to the globe set. All right, that's, hold him there as well. So let's, go and view that set what's you r r said here. Well, I want this one go in there. We want to add that to the set. It said it was already there, but it wasn't there. Let's, add that to ourselves. Not gonna add that they're either. All right, we're doing good today. I like it. Let's add this added to the set. All right. We're not going to even bother with that today. Why's that networking it doesn't want to add it all. That's at a new sentence. See what happens let's? Just call it glimpse at one and see what happens and see if we can add that it does not want to have that at all that's excellent. Well we will see what's going on with that later but that's how you make love sets when it's working we've got the euro in there so we're good we're doing good on that um I don't know why it's not adding that in there at all so anyway I put currency sets or whatever says I'm working on together so I have to find them probably the same thing if I was using the same three you know, greek sets and they're still trying to find everything in here like for instance, numbers there's a lot of different numbers if I don't remember which version of the eight I used or I want to make sure you use the same version of the three I would do the same thing and created glimpse set for that put those particular items in there so glitz are great I'm like said there's just tons of different options that we can have in here this is for what we're doing individual items that's here now if we wanted all our numbers to the old old style I'm not going to go in here and type each number every time from the glitz set I can actually turn that on when I'm using open type fonts and we're gonna talk about open type in just a few minutes some of the special items that air there let's go back into our other page of type that we have here and just put an extra couple returns so I keep doing what I tell you not to do, but we're going to it any way I could do this all right? So I'm going to show some special some other special characters that air there one of them being white space and I know that doesn't sound very exciting just put some white space in there but there's different types of white space that we have I'm going to close my glitz panel, so in a case of something like a dash, you know, yesterday we had this problem we're hyphenate ing that sees that as a hyphen that should probably be inem dash right? So we want to do that, but we might want to put some space before after it I'm not going to get into the whole debate of whether or not three space before after it we're not supposed to use that in the us here and some people use it and I like a little breathing room maybe just a teeny tiny little bit of space, but I'm just gonna go ahead and put in on an m dash in here sure, him and I just used my keyboard truck up for that I did option dash or all dash on a pc, but I might want to put a little bit of space a little bit of breathing room between my dash is in here I actually think I only did it end space and I'm apologized for that was to shift up from there we go that's a nice big m dash right there but I want to put a little bit of space a thin space our air space right so I could do that under the tight menu insert white space I have a ton of different types of white space and in design it's a lot of space to choose from I don't know why but it actually uses most of these I just use those for demo so you can see the difference in the in the invisibles if you want but in this case let's just put a teeny tiny let's put a hair space so it's just going to give me a little bit of breathing room but there is actually space there and if I turned on my invisibles again I can see that it's a certain kind of space that's here so I can look at that and see that's what the the hair space looks like the same thing over here and I'm gonna insert some white space I'm going to use the hair space again so now I might not actually know what that which space that is but I can tell that it's not a regular space and that's kind of handy too of people have done something maybe here instead of the herr space they went did the thin space and I get this a lot where one's a hair space one's a thin space you're wondering why it just doesn't look right, then you think it's the current ing and you're trying to tighten up the turning or the tracking and it's not in its that there's two different kinds of space is so well, I don't know the difference between those two on the invisibles, I can see that they're different and I would need to fix that, so I'm gonna go back to the white space I'm going to go ahead and make that push the thin hair space zoom back out on that all right? So the white space, like I said, not super, super exciting, but it's something that you need to use all the time just kind of give it a little bit of breathing room that's in there, some of the other special characters that are in there under the tight menu insert special character, but things like quotation marks obviously doing a quote marks pretty easy, but we still have him in here for under the straight ones. We don't want the smart quotes, right? We won't use that as as hash marks also of hyphens and dashes of I can't remember my keyboard shortcuts for those dashes and I could do things like put in specific characters that are there the bullet symbol copyright ellipses now there's keyboard shortcuts for all these, but again, that's one of those things that if you can't remember the keyboard shortcut it's nice to know they're right there in the in the menu as well. We've got some other space spaces down here as well, so those are the kind of the special characters, the special hidden characters that air there in type and depending on your keyboard and the language that you have chosen, they're going to be in different places. The keyboard truck, that's, keyboard shortcuts are going to be different, obviously as well. Open up another file here we're going to some text rapping, so there was a little question about that yesterday about wrapping text around when you haven't inline graphic, and I said that the best way to do is just to do the regular text rap. And so what I want to do is I'm just going to put some text in this field, and I have a text frame already, and I'm going to show you how to play some text inside a frame we're talking about placing in, linking text in just a little while, but if I want to bring text into a particular document, we talked about this with templates where we bring it down where we just have the shell and just the frame just the frame of sitting here so this might be a template where I say great I've got this frame ready to go and if I look at this frame I'm going to pull this off a little bit I can actually look over here and I could see that we have these margins remember yesterday and we started very very beginning one of the questions was how many columns in your document well this is what happens when you have a margin area this is the purple line here and these two lines down the middle I've told it it's two columns with a certain amount of gutter in between so what I want to do is look at this text frame I also would like it to mimic the same exact layout just because I have the margin set up doesn't mean that the text frame automatically has those margins sometimes select the text frame with the selection tool the solid tool and got up under object of all things I know it sounds like it should be under the tight menu but some of the object menu because we're working with the frame itself so we're going to open up the text frame options and I'm going to tell it I wanted to be two columns so it's already set up for two columns we just can't see that's not turned on two columns here and the gap I'm pretty sure I did not leave that point a one point six six, seven so I'm gonna actually make that I'm sure it's probably let's make it it's actually make it one and a half and see how that works. Well, just look at that and say, ok, well, come over here, we'll drag this back out to our margin size here and I'm going to bring some text in, all right? So I'm just going to put my cursor in the text frame and I'm just going to go ahead do place. I've got my cursor in there when I choose place and I put some type in there it's going to actually flow it right into where my cursor is. So do file place and come out here to my text and I've just got this rt a file, and when I bring in text, I want to bring in my import options and we'll go over one of the options right now. We'll do a little bit more when we bring in some more text from word is just a plain are jack file, everything appears checked by default? I'm going to use the topography is quotes and notes, footnotes I don't have any of that in this file, but I leave those on in case they are there and I want to remove styles and formatting from texting tables, and after we talk about text for a while, this will make a long or after we talk about stiles, it'll make more sense, but I just want to know about any styling in case that person put any styles and we're just gonna strip them out because we're goingto do all our formatting once it's in in design, so I just say, ok, and it brings it in right there just goes ahead and brings that in my son was going to select all that text, and I'm going to just make a couple adjustments so you can see that my margin is way too wide, so it didn't come to the margin that's in that text, so I want to go back to that text frame options under the ob good menu and I want for my preview on so I can see what's happening, and I'm just going to bring this down until it looks a little closer. Why is that not working? Let's? Come in here. I want it fixed. A fixed number of columns. Good two columns. So here's, my gutter that's what I was doing around this with that's, not what I want, what the gutter to be a little bit. A little bit bigger, a little bit smaller. Move that around and let's actually line this up. Snap that into place a little better. There we go. And that looks pretty good. And it's pretty big type let's actually just make that a little bit smaller. Make that, like, seven point type. All right, that looks pretty good. And now what I want to do is I want to put a picture in there. I want the text to wrap around that picture and I kind of cheated. You can see these guides that air here. So I've got kind of a square sitting here that's where I want my picture to go. So the reason I have that it's so that I have the guides already ready. I can put a picture in there and it's exactly what I needed to be. So maybe file and we're choose, place or replace an image in there, and we turn off my options, and I'm just going to click and drag to the size of that particular those guides. So I held out my shift because it's not exactly the same size, and I might want to make my image a little bit bigger here just to fit, so that looks good except that my text is sitting smack dab behind that photo I wanted to actually wrap around so what I need to do is I need to assign text wrap, but I assigned the tech strapped to the image or the item that is have is having text wrapped around it. All right? So in this case, I'm going to click on this image frame that's here, it's actually pulled us down so it's right where I want it want to grab that image frame and I'm going to go over to the techs trap panel and if it's not open it's under the window menu under tech, strap on, open that up, I'm gonna pull this up so it's a little easier to see, and I have a couple different options for how the text is going to ramp. I see the rapid around the have known text wrap it all I could wrap it around the bounding box or the next one is to wrap around the object shape. Now, in this case, it's the same thing because I have a square image sitting my square frame, but those tomatoes that we had yesterday, I could wrap it around the tomatoes themselves instead. Now I would need to have the clipping path, so the clipping path knows where the edge of the objects is, or one of the photos show past that were in there have to be something like that. Just another use for clipping path is to wrap around that the other way it would work is if we had transparency already built into an object. So say, in photo shop, we have no background, the tomatoes sitting on, no background, we bring that into in design, in that transparency is still there, and then the text can actually wrap around the object itself, so I'm gonna just choose bounding box because that's all I have and it wrapped around, but it's really tight, it's sitting right against everything that's there. So what I need to do is go into these objects options and tell it how much space on the top bottom left and right to push that text away, and I could do it and keeping all measurements the same, which works for a while. I tend to do a little bit, but as you notice, it looks like a lot more space on the bottom, and the top is well, and I'm actually going to grab this picture, just move it down. Something that's a little bit more in there so it looks all right, but it looks like there's a lot more space on the bottom, and the problem for that is that we have leading we have how much letting each line space takes up so it's not going to let it come over halfway or run underneath it's going to keep the same amount of letting. So as I move that picture, I might get a better layout, my look a little bit better, or I can take the top and bottom turn this off so it's not the same measurements and give it a little bit a little bit less run around on the top in the bottom so that khun tighten it up a little bit and it's not perfect. We're going to see some weird spacing, especially if we don't have the same leading throughout, or if we did that thing where we had a little bit of extra space before this particular paragraph, so put my cursor where it says hypothermia and that's actually a title, so we might have had a bigger font there. We were doing it that way, let's say, I have a little bit of space before that paragraph. Now my spacing is a little off, so we're going to get some weird oddities that way. So I don't think that the text trap is perfect, but it sort of can't be because of the type that it's interacting with, so I usually just try and find. A little a little space that looks good try and just move around till it balances the text nicely does somewhere things here because I have justified text it's a lot of hyphenation and a lot of really strange spacing as well you know, this is big gaps right down here of white space that's because I've done the justified but the justified type just demonstrates a little bit better the tech strap that's in there now the tech strap is affected is affecting any text that runs into this text friend unlike other programs that used to do it a different way used after always have the thing that's being wrapped around on top so the text was always behind it only affected items below but within design it doesn't matter if the text frame is on top or behind so the stacking order doesn't matter. But what if I wanted to put something on top of this image just want a little text frame that says hike so let's actually do that I'm going to just draw another text frame it's going to run after this side to start with off that text as it is and actually turn my pace board on so I can see the edges and work with and maybe I want this to just say hike we want that and it's going to be bold and I want to move this on top of that text frame when I do that as soon as I hit it it goes away goes away and I get that little plus that tells me there's more to that story and that's because it hit that picture frame and that picture frame has text trip on it so it's wrapping and it's in a small text from so rapid that it goes away so we don't want that so what I need to do is select the text frame that I want to be on top of that image and I go back into that same spot under the object menu text from options and I'm going to tell it that that text frame ignores text rap so when I do that it shows up so now it's going to nor any test wrap it runs into so when it hit that picture with tax trap it just ignores it that keep in mind if it hits something else that it needs to wrap around it won't it's ignoring all text trip that's all you can do is tell it this text frame will ignore any text wrapped commands that it runs into so say ok, I can put that on top and then we're good to go text that makes sense getting text wrap around so that image is just sitting there floating around I'm actually gonna shifts like both of those I get the image even group that together and then I can move this image around and the text flows around it. I'm going to put a different picture in there a second so we can see what happens with the bound when it's not the bounding box, but the object itself. So it's actually do that let's put in our tomato picture and let's see if this one this one is has a drop shadow that was in photo shop, so I did the drop shadow in there. It has transparency in it, so shouldn't have a background it's a psd file so it's actually put that image in here all right, good, so I can see that I didn't need to do a clipping path that clipping path was actually done in photoshopped, the background is pulled out a photo shop, and it even has a drop shadow already in it that's in photo shop, so any transparency that's in photo shop will actually come into in design just fine, but what I want to do is select the image, and I want to tell it to wrap the text around whoops let's not do that let's actually grabbed the frame of the selection tool and tell it to wrap around the object. Why isn't it doing it? Or we may have to use our clipping path on this it's not wrapping around the object as it should let us go ahead and grab a clipping path and really quickly I'm going to do the down and dirty clipping path we did yesterday which was detect edges so come down under the object menu clipping path options just tell it detect edge is great now we haven't wrapping around that particular image and when you're using a path that is not a square you have one option for the opposite we're going to come in here just push out have you see you can see where the path is you also see the blue path that's the text rap path so let's look at that so again we could move that around until it fits nicely let's fit it somewhere that looks really good so as I move around it should draw it's got somewhere drawing issues lately I've noticed where does it's not super smooth you should be able to see the text is you're moving it a little bit better all right so you just put that image there and we have the text wrapping around the image so it's pretty easy to just plopped things in the middle of your text flow and have it wrapped around that way seven cents weaken yeah it's pretty cool right let's go teo we did text on a path already so I'm going to do I drop her again when I dropped her now to pick up text attributes instead of picking up color attributes so let's, go over here actually to this chunk of text that I have, and I'm going to shorten up this paragraph a lot. We don't want this much text in here, so I have this text here and I'm going to create a second paragraph with my type tool actually let me zoom in a little bit on that so we can see it a little bit closer. Closer text rob pannell so I can come in here and I'm just gonna put some text he's our placeholder text that's here, and I could see that these are different, the colors air, the sponsor different and the leading is a little bit different the size is a little bit different as well. In fact, let's make this a lot smaller, so it's very obvious, and what I want to do is I want to pick up the styling from this paragraph up here and put it in the paragraph down below effectively do one more thing with that upper paragraph I'm going to justify it do shift command j to justify, and I want the bottom paragraph to look exactly like the top paragraph there's a couple different ways I can do that I can select the paragraph, I wantto effect, and then we'll pick up the information with the with the eyedropper tool or convict the information of the eyedropper tool and then go drop it in all the places I'd like to format that makes sense okay, so what I'm going to do is actually will create I'm copying this bottom text frame and doing another one as well so we can pick it up, pick up the formatting from the one paragraph and drop it onto other paragraphs as well. So I'm going to grab my eyedropper tool and I'm gonna come in and I'm going to try and hit one of the letters and the reason for that is I don't want to pick up just a paragraph stylings I want to pick up the character styling as well, so I'm going to come in here and then I'm going to dragged across the letters so I clicked with the eyedropper tool and that I'm dragging across the letters on these other paragraphs I can also just drop it inside, but that gets the paragraph settings but not the character settings I need to make sure remember we're working with characters that we have all the characters selected some drag across and drop that so that's a quick way to pick up the characters settings from one item and bring it to another I could just do like I say just the paragraph, let me look at what we can do it the eyedropper tulloch's well double click on the eyedropper tool and I can tell it which characteristics I wanted to pick up maybe I didn't want it to pick up absolutely everything maybe I just wanted to assign the font make sure the fault was the same but not all the other styling that I had in that particular paragraph so by double clicking on the eyedropper tool I get the options and underneath each of these are all the different options that are available that this may or may not be picking up so in this case maybe I just wanted it to be the font aiken d select everything and then suddenly say ok, I just wanted actually the font that's the only thing so I d select everything and then coming here just select the font than that the on ly thing the eyedropper tool pickup and apply some make sense right now I probably won't do this very often what I would do with this is probably create a style because what I don't want to do is come back and say oh actually now I want this first paragraph we're going to change that to something else when change it two million pro well all these other ones are not going to automatically chain dominion pro I would have to go manually do all that again somebody is something like a style but I do use that everyone so when I just want to clip quickly pick up something and apply something so for instance, if I go back to my eye dropper tool close everything up is the easiest way to uncheck everything is a great place to have an uncheck all box, but it doesn't have one, but if you had checked, the big box is here, everything below it becomes unchecked. The only thing I was going to do on character setting I thought I would do color let's just do color it's the only thing that's going to pick up and let's, just go ahead and make all this text will make this a different color. It's just come in here and make that and you notice I put, I put the stroke, I made the stroke red and the phil is solid black told you to do that all the time. That's pretty ugly we don't want to do that let's undo that. Make sure that we have the film set up for the color that I'm assigning, and also I want to make sure that what I'm doing that that I'm working with the text, the fill of the text and let's make that a new color make that that red and then what I want to do is I want to use my eyedropper, which is on ly picking up the color. And I could just drag across clip one of those letters that air there and then I can just double click on a word and let's zoom in on that we can actually see that so I double click it's going to apply that red coloring that we had I think this double click on that double click I actually think I am still doing the stroke that's on there instead of the phil, but I can double click and just highlight those words really quickly in red and that's handy except that again it's not a style and if something changes it doesn't automatically update sort of a one time thing we're picking it up dropping it and they were forgetting that there's no link between the two at all. So if I suddenly decide I don't want it to be the red I want to be green there's no way tio easily update that that's what a style would be used for but the eyedropper tool is really, really a quick way to just style things and have them match some other style that's on the page if we want to work with the case, we want to make something you know, upper case lower case something like that all that stuff lives in either a keyboard shortcut or in the character panel so when I go to the character panel again if it's not open its under window down under type and tables as you have an older version they keep moving the panels I like to play where did adobe moved my panels because they're always in a new place in every new version and type of tables is one of those sometimes take strapped lives in typing tables because it has to do with that text sometimes it doesn't and then also in cia six they moved all the styles even character in paragraph styles which your tech space into the style sub menu so can't find something kind of look under all those little sub menus that air there I say we're going to come into the character panel I want to look at the character panel menu and in here we have things like case superscript subscript small caps all caps so if I say all caps suddenly I have everything in all caps and there's a keyboard shortcut for that but I can do it really quickly from this menu as well maybe instead I want to do small caps and small caps just means it looks like caps but anything that's capitalized of course is a little bit better so by doing that we were able to assign a new case to the text that's there I can also do things like superscript and subscript that's one of the things that were food did that each two o sample yesterday this is probably what we would have done instead is done subscript instead of just moving it off the baseline. But that's, what it's doing? But the nice thing is, it doesn't show. Is it being off the baseline? Because if you manually move it off the baseline, that you decide you need to move all the text in some way off the baseline, that was always going to be off by that amount. So by using superscript it's, taking the percentage of the fund it's already making it smaller and moving it off the baseline. But in relation to the actual font size that we have so that's, why you're using that is better than manually doing it. It's not as bad as skewing and doing that false italics, but it's still not great. Turn off the small cabs and turn off the superscript just goes back to normal, and so there are some other things hidden over here is, well, so case is one of those.