Senior Session: Hair & Makeup
Today we are we've had to do a little rearrange the schedule because originally we plan on doing a live shoot right now but it's raining so you gotta do what you can and so we're hoping the rain will go away and we can do that in the excitement but I'm excited about that kendra who you saw yesterday is going to be our model and she is going teo do a fabulous job I think she's model once before for creative library so she's she's no pro way are going to do a live shoot up on the roof raise the roof right? So we're gonna have a good time with that and we're also going teo I'm going to share a video appreciate that I did once we got out here at golden garden here in seattle we did a shoot with a girl and a guy so we could get two aspects of it senior photography we're going to talk about fun in the right location lighting natural natural poses, natural reflectors all that good stuff that has to do with shooting and, you know, posing as faras guys and girls there's a little bit of a differ...
ence between the two, so we'll talk a little bit about that we'll talk then we'll get into workflow on dh for me workflow is editing but also workflow meaning from the time you get an inquiry all the way till ordering session and beyond, we'll touch on that as well. We will edit some images from the roof shoot and actually took kendra out two days ago. Now I think on diddle shoot with her as well, so we'll edit one from that. You guys will see that actually took her around seattle and, like, you know, like I would normally do for a photo shoot. Normally I don't get up on a roof and doing better shoot that we did a little bit of what I normally do taste you can see a couple of photos from that we are going to talk about social media huge with teenagers, so we're going to talk about that. We're gonna have a special gift to is eighteen blogger, guest blogger for sea neurology says she's going to be joining us? Sarah cooney is her name shout out to sarah excited tohave her and andre. We're gonna have a team panel, which is going to be awesome because you guys get to ask these teenagers what you've always wanted to know. I think it's a great idea to do for yourself with your own clients as well ask the questions and they'll give you the answers, they're pretty honest and and straightforward, so they'll tell you exactly what they want. How they want it and all that good stuff, so we're going to do that and have a good time. So if you guys want to be thinking ahead of time about questions for that that's a good idea, you might want to jot those down you guys out on the internet if you want to be thinking of head for that segment because I think that segment's going to be huge, I think it's going to be a a lot of great information right from the source, I can sit up here all day long and tell you stuff, but hearing from the actual teenagers who were trying to attract it is going to be even more beneficial. So so that's, what we're going to be covering today, a lot of great stuff super excited, a lot of interaction with the shooting and the, you know, team panel and sarah, so we'll have some fun with that, but right now, let's, just go ahead and jump in with first, we are going to talk about hair and make up for your wardrobe for your senior clients, and then we'll get into a little bit more about wardrobe, even though I know we talked about that love it yesterday, but more so for the guy because we did a little video clip on me helping him. His order so we're going to start with that? I want to talk a little bit about hair and makeup before I show the video a couple of key things for hair makeup sorry I had to get closer to my table. A couple of key things is really finding the makeup artist so if you're somebody that maybe he hasn't found one yet how do you go about finding one? For me it happened to be that my child went to preschool with another student whose mom was a maid come artist so that's as simple as it was for me but I know it's not always that simple s o you know, looking for here makeup artist how do you find the right one? You really want to find one that meshes with your style? You know, ifyou're not somebody that does the super glamorous lots of makeup look well, you don't want to make up artist that does that, you know domain you are something that wants a natural look. You want to make sure you pick a makeup artist that can achieve that with the right amount of makeup so that it shows up on camera but not too much to the girls feel like they are overly made up, right? I know you never want that look right now it's money you never want her to go oh god, what do I have on my face right? Finding one key you need it to fit in well with your brain and and you guys need to work really well together the more you work with a certain makeup artist, the more you'll mesh well with them and they'll sort of start to know your style and automatically know what to do for here makeup so I fell nine through preschool connection. So how can you find yours? Always tell people go to the makeup counters and I mean, everybody usually has a store that has a make up counter and most of the time they will free lance so that is a good start to trying to find one you definitely need to try them out because, yeah, you don't want to just trust this new makeup artist with a client and say, oh, gosh, but a concept shoot or just, you know, a shoot that you thought you put together for that reason we'll always have in images for your portfolio so that's good, so you can test them out and then see how it looks on camera and then you're always going to gain images for your portfolio so I would suggest that I mean, definitely talkto him interview them, I would say you want your personalities to fit together I mean, you don't want somebody that's super unprofessional if you know, because that will fit in well with your brand their representation of you there the first person truly that your clients might even see I mean they may have talked to you on the phone and stuff, but the beginning of the shoot is hair and makeup so you really want that that hair makeup artist to be somebody that can can be you know, representative of you and your brand new girl does both hair and make up which is super convenient but that's not always possible, so if you have to find somebody separate for hair versus makeup again, that person should fit all the criteria that fit your brand on dh then also look for somebody where you know if I like I don't have a studio so I really don't want here make up done at my house I don't want kids run around I don't want to you know, kick my husband out be like sorry I got here makeup come into the house so finding a hair and makeup artist that has somewhere for me to go with the girls is important. So if you go into the department store whatever and you're talking to somebody that might freelance you may ask them hey, do you have a place because they don't that's a consideration for you course if you have the studio, maybe some like that could just come to you so think about those things when you're looking for a hair makeup artists because it is super and board it now I worked with hair makeup artists all over the country because with senior ology we do see neurology tours and we do shoot out so we do all these things where I'm going into a new area I don't know here and makeup artist so I have to find you know my personal one was super easy for me to find but I do understand having to find somebody new because I do it all the time and I you know, rely on referrals I talked to people I will you know, sometimes ask a photographer in that area you know who did you know? But then sometimes I'll go and call a makeup artist or even an agency sometimes talent agencies have makeup artist that they send out two jobs and stuff that they might be a good resource is well, just do your research and interviews several people on make sure and then pricing you know pricing is huge again because I do it all over the country I've been quoted as little as fifty dollars and as much as five hundred dollars s o u I have to know your budget and what you are willing to pay because it if you are including it into your session price that's going to be taken away from how much you end up with so make sure you found somebody one way around having to pay a huge amount of money is to tell them, okay, look, I really want to work exclusively with you. I'm going to bring you a lot of clients, these girls are going to get a prom and they're going to love what you did for their senior session and they're going to book you for prom, so work it that way, maybe they'll give you more of a discount because they're going to get more quantity for me, and they're going to then book get another booking out of it. Almost every one of my girls end up going to my makeup artist for prom and she's booked solid, and luckily, my makeup artist has girls that work under her. So if she's not available, she said, somebody else that works for her and there they're all very consistent with what they do and all that good stuff. So that's, another thing to consider. If it is a one person show you, we're gonna have to really work on scheduling with one person as opposed to maybe if they have several people under them. Now I know a lot of places salons across the country also have makeup s so that's another option for you to try to find somebody. Call him up, you know, and that's a good one for hair and makeup and it's a good one to send somebody to on dh then here, make up for me is the time to just hang out with the girls. I like to meet him there. I don't ever send them to here make up by themselves because I know they trust me. They've never met the makeup artist at that point. S o they trust me to kind of guide here make up to make sure they look good, make sure they have enough all, but not too much make sure it goes with the outfit that we've planned from the wardrobe consultation. So I think it's a really yet again, another time to continue to build that relationship because I just hang out with, um I talked to them again, things coming from the questionnaire come up at that point, you know, we talk about school, we talked about, you know, whatever's coming up, I sit there and make sure following him on instagram you no, wait, let me let me make sure that your instagram correct and let make sure facebook, because we'll be doing behind the scenes shots and things like that, so hair and makeup is a great time tio really keep that relationship going just just hang out with them you know domain tobias said yesterday that she plays music and stuff make it fun you know like girls hanging out and we all were all well we are all girls in the studio s o you know just have have a good time talk girl stuff talk makeup hair makeup artist gets into it make suggestions about makeup I'm always asking some question about what's you know what's the best foundation and what what's the newest eye color and with your favorite products and the girls really get into that because they're all very makeup conscious usually so it's a really really good chance too you know continue to build the relationship so let's go ahead and start the hair makeup clip hey guys this leslie we are here in here make up getting ready for a senior federal session with amy our senior christina is going to be doing her makeup and I like to hang out with them just teo make sure that they're doing exactly what we need on their hair makeup to make it look perfect for their fetish shoot it's also a great time just hang out and get some of the senior so that's what we're doing we're about to get started on amy's makeup ok so today we're going to the beach eh something keeping with that same with her hair and her makeup really she's got nice curls like me let's keep the beachy wave maybe a braid across the front or something tio kind of keep it out of her face but still have it down right on dh then for makeup just do the corals bronzy kind of color like like you're going to the beach that may be a papa, right? Okay, yeah maker I stand out and then maybe a little pop of color on her lips. So how much makeup do you usually dio on people when they're getting their makeup done? We have to put enough on to make sure that you can see it on camera, but not too much or you'll feel uncomfortable. So yeah, that's exactly what we do here make up is because we want to make sure that on camera it comes through actually shoot a little bit over exposed, so that tends to wash people out, which is great for getting rid of wrinkles, but not so great if you want to see that I have makeup on so my makeup artist that I typically work with, she knows that, but I also do shoots all over the country, so I have to make sure that the makeup artist I'm working with wherever I am knows that I do shoot a little bit overexposed, so we want to make sure there's enough makeup on to see it on camera, but not too much makeup to make her look twenty five she needs philip seventeen seventeen eighteen have anyway she used to look like hard just amped up a little bit okay so you can see how just talking to the make up artist and given her some guidance of course this is totally up to you guys is how much control or not control that you have over the hair and makeup, so typically I give them guidance that don't control every aspect of what they do because again I tend to trust them they know a little bit more about hair makeup than I do so again I give him a guidance I knew where we were going so a location can help showing them the colors of the wardrobe they're wearing can help just so they especially if they're changing outfits but maybe the hair and makeup artist isn't going with you so need a palette that can go with everything so if they're wearing bright red one time then they're wearing you know baby pink another time they gotta wear something that can go with both outfits right s oh, or maybe your makeup artist considers you a little sample of like lipstick because that's something easy to change but maybe the rest of the face is something that goes with all outfit so it's really important teo like I say guide them, let them know where you're going so they can get a feel for we were going to the beach, so I was afraid it would be windy just because the beach where I'm from is usually windy, so I just assumed that might be the case, so I thought instead of me having to constantly pull hair out of her face, the braid would keep it off her face a little bit more um also think about that when girls have, like, super straight hair or super fine hair tends the blow a little bit more, my hair will stay like this for days, so things like this probably aren't so, you know, like I don't really ever have to worry about I'm blowing too much because it's a thick and heavy but some girls have fine hair and so there's there's constantly that a train that's going straight through the eye, which is like, oh, hate photoshopping that right? Think about things like that that maybe you and your hair makeup artists can work round to help out with things like that to make it easier for you when you're shooting to not have to edit stuff so much yes, give him a guidance you can always do a pinterest board of ideas you khun take ideas from your senior again, you took that, you know, you did that questionnaires and maybe they have a specific look that they won't they might have a specific hairstyle that they really want most often mind don't come with very specific things they may have a few things on their phone or something they're like oh this is kind of cute so if we do something similar something like that that's a good idea and then also I really like for my makeup artist to do abrade or something over to the side that's very easily taken down holds curl really well and actually the girl we're shooting today that's exactly what we did we ended up she's gonna have her hair curled she's going to be pulling it over to the side for the first outfit and then all I have to do is take out a few bobby pins and her hair's dale so it's not a completely new look but it's something that you know we can change up very easily just so all the pictures not look exactly the same. So that's something to consider when you are dealing with hair makeup. Now, in addition to that this oh yeah do you have christian? I was just gonna say yeah, we could take you a couple questions before we move to the next video yeah, yeah and then I wanted such a tiny but on this particular models our dr but we can do that after questions so this one is from stephanie michelle, who wants to know what types of questions would you ask when interviewing makeup artists in terms of whether you wantto work with them? What are some things that you should? No? Absolutely well, first of all, my thing is to get to know them personally, and then you can get into questions like, what type of makeup do youse do you deal with this age group? You know, ask them how much makeup they think is necessary because if they say, you know, a ton or whatever, then and that's not your look, I think the main thing is making sure that that that person understands your age group and doesn't make them look twenty five I mean, there's there's a lot of girls out there that might want to look twenty five that you don't need to you're only seventeen and you need to go back to seventeen I totally would. So yeah, I mean just talking teo getting a feel for for their version of a seventeen year old makeup, making sure that they worked with own camera type makeup because it is a little bit different, they have to have some sort of understanding of how much to put on without making it look caked on, and then you could even have them do makeup on you. You know, jane as a demonstration, or bring one of your senior models if you have one or one of your past clients, are somebody that you know that might be, you know, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen have them do it and see now there's, there's, airbrush makeup and there's regular foundations that that's something you could consider doing my hair makeup artist does do airbrush on dh it works really well for the fact that we live in the south and people sweat because argh! Listen, I should say we glisten wear usually shooting and in june and july and august and in september thought and even october, todd and airbrushing makeup that they put a little bit longer so that's always help awful. So and I'm not about any means saying that you have to go use the hair and makeup artist that uses airbrush I think I've used because I've gone all over the country I sometimes have to work with here makeup artist that don't do air rushing, and I think that's fine, I think they both look really what long is the makeup artist is good? I don't care what kind they're using, however things to consider our if you live somewhere that's hot and how long will it last? And you know what kind of makeup do you have that's going to give them that long lasting look in case we are sweating or, you know, gets hot or whatever things like that? I think the most important thing is seeing their work though, and having them do it is a great way and then personality, you know, just chat with them, you can get a feel of how you miche with somebody you don't want somebody that's going to be necessarily combative or have a difference of opinion is you want a mesh? I mean, you know, like I say, you want to present a unified affront to your clients because they are going to see that person first, you know? And then, you know, make sure like I said, the location where you might send them because if they if they want you to come to their home, might be great, but you might want to look at that first to make sure it's a home that's appropriate or, you know, whatever, so because they are children, and I mean, they're seventeen or not adults yet, so you want to make sure you're sending them to a safe place, a good environment that's going to represent you and your brand things like that, so yeah, thats what I would do medical kind like a first date wait trying to figure out his match right hopefully not a thirty eight minute date but yeah you do make up in eight minutes, right? Yeah, exactly time that's a good question though. How long does it take you? Because my hair makeup artists do perfect like super fast almost to the point where brides that she does are like are you sure? That's all because they affect this long drawn out process but she does eh? She does a job that a normal person would do in an hour and a half probably in forty five minutes and does it will so make sure you ask that how long's that gonna take then you know what? Time to schedule stuff? Because if you are trying to do a shoot it you know let's say you want to shoot it five o'clock in the afternoon you need to know how long here makeup's going take so you know how far to back that up and start the hair makeup process and then also maybe ask them do they do here a lot of times make up artist will be able to do hair in a way that's not like a hair stylist but we'll work for your senior I mean it remain like typically if you're into that kind of thing you kind of pay attention to that stuff you know that stuff s o it might not be somebody that actually cut hair you know does that but it could be somebody that knows how to fish till or knows how to you know, doing outdo or knows how to curl or knows how to use a straight iron and that might work for eve on then you can use one person for the you know the same thing. All right, well, let's keep going. Wait a question I actually didn't have a question but I did have a comment because I was running into that problem the makeup artist that I was using they were having my girls look to too overdone because because it's texas probably everything's bigger more in texas too much though, right? Right, so what I had to do I had to be I personally became trained so that I can do make up myself so I have my own kid wow right? And so that in case like anything happens I have my own kid. So what? Everything in it that I know how I want my client to look so I think that's also and so we're given them an experience, right? I was giving them experience but I found like if it was like superpac like in april or march I was like drained by the end today, right? But I do have an amazing makeup artists that I worked side by side with the same with the same relationship that you have with yours, and it took a while for me to get to that point. But she knows me, and she knows my personality, you know, before I would just be watching, like, right, let me that's too much, but now I can totally like, go walk away and come back right now and say that, oh, this is amazing thing that all the time, right? And I'm just saying, it's not going to like overnight process, but I like I would totally not leave anyone alone. I would just be, like, that's a little bit too much eyeliner, but definitely I had to go and learn myself right now. Where did ugo did you get a cosmetology school? I went to another makeup artists, okay, yeah, yeah, I think that's. Amazing. You always wanted to do that myself. Go to the o the other girl was ours, it's, affordably. Okay, good.