The Art of Maternity Photography with Ana Brandt
Hi everyone, are you excited? Excited? My name is anna frances, she said, and I wrote a book called the art of pregnancy and newborn back in two thousand seven because I had been doing maternity and newborn for fourteen years, and she said, I'm a new yorker born and raised, and I came to california in nineteen ninety nine and one of the very first thing that I did was become a photographer, register my business and start doing maternity and newborn started focusing on from day one, so what I'm going to do is just give you a little bit background about me and how I came into photography. I'll warn you that my husband always says, if you ask anyhow, I got into photography to sit down because I'm probably going to start when I was born, and so I'm going to try and be quick about it, but I feel like it's true, right that we all have a story of what got us to this point if you think about him forty three years old and every path I've taken and everywhere, when has led me right to this momen...
t with you, and so I feel like wherever you are in your journey and photography, we all have those moments and twist. And turn that take us to each of our moments and with photography that's kind of how it landed I never and intended to be a professional photographer if you would have told this little puerto rican girl in new york that I was going to be a photographer one day I probably wouldn't have believed it see this is where we get back to where I was born basically I'm an adopted child so I have no visual history of my life so I've never seen what my biological mother looks like nor have I ever seen what I looked like a child I knew this was gonna happen so early on I trying out some of the tears come but honestly those early years literally sent me for who I was going to be and it happens to everybody I was fascinated early on with photos my adoptive grandmother took tons of photos she'll you know, every family has that person that takes so she was that person and I remember just seeing the images and the pictures and going on in my teenage years really loving it and I wasn't an easy teenager in fact, out of five children I probably was not going to be the most successful list I think I was in the bottom somewhere and all the times I was expelled from school and I had a grandfather just kept saying no and you're just so smart you're just going to be amazing one day and again photography wasn't my future but what what was consistent in my life was a visual history was so important to me I became an aunt in college went to school for accounting that photography and I remember seeing my sister in law is pregnant and thinking wow this is a pregnant woman not only that but the likeliness of the baby to the mother and then the relationship between my grandfather and the firstborn grandchild I was literally life changing I ended up going back to school for photography and I was in school from nineteen to twenty nine years old if there is a community college back east it has my name on the roster because once I discovered seeing an image in the developer and just being like wow that's amazing now take a puerto rican child who was abandoned by her mother has no photos of herself has no photos of what her biological mother looked like take a self portrait and watch it come up in the developer pretty cool, huh? And that literally took me on my journey again still in my early twenties didn't want to be a professional photographer but I'm a little obsessive and I feel like I'm the kind of person that has to know about anything I'm doing so I jumped in the photography and I kept taking the same courses over and over again I had to learn developing I had to learn how to use my camera I was became a web designer I was making over eighty thousand dollars a year I was doing fine loving what I was doing climbing the corporate ladder and doing photography as a hobby again not wanting to be a professional level of specializing in turn anymore okay get married become california I leave my new york family and I'm taking this course what do I do enroll the local community college and I take the same chorus I'm taking over and over again and I remember my husband going why are you taking this course because I would cry like every week because the professor was so hard on me and at the end when I handed my portfolio and the professors looks it and shuts it says I've been trying to figure out the whole semester why you're here because I knew I'm twenty nine with like eighteen year old student right? I clearly didn't belong and he said if you're looking for somebody to go do what you were born to dio then this is it go do it and I registered my business and I decided from day one that I loved the early stage I love newborn loved pregnancy I don't know how to do it but I loved it my first part of my business was shooting child models in california easy easy money, beautiful children I didn't have a studio, I worked out of my home, so taught me how to use lighting, how to use my camera in different situations remember, I'm a little obsessive, so I really wanted to just learn, so I just spent night and day and told her daughter was all the time when they're like, I can't quit my day job. I can't do this can't do that. Yes, you can. I walked out of an eighty thousand dollar a year job, three months pregnant with my first child and never looked back called my husband crying, going, I just quit my job, he's like, okay didn't ask permission because remember that professor had given me my permission, and honestly, I needed that one person in my life to say this is what you were born to dio and realizing that my lack of visual history, what I think people forget is that to know where you're going, you have to know where you came from, and photographers have to understand the third job is more than about taking photos, you're preserving somebody's legacy, right? You were preparing history because how do we know history? How do you know anything without photographs, right, so my whole life, literally my whole life, I feel like has been to find my own visual history create my own because I still don't know what my mother looks like my biological mother thank goodness I'm a wonderful adoptive family but also now have three children and so my job is to let them know who their mother wass and to preserve their legacy. So now we go into maternity and I have literally spent night and day dressing women and trying to make them feel good, and a few months ago I had a woman calming go okay, I'm calling for a pregnancy session and I don't know if I'm going to book with you. I've called all these photographers, so but I just have one question for you and I'm like sure she was why? Why would I get pregnancy photos done? Why would why would I get them taken? I've called everybody I know nobody has an answer I've called other photographers now we have an answer I said, I got this, I got this and this is why she said that they're not for you, they're for the legacy you're leaving behind because I guarantee you with the core of my being that I know that that child you're raising wants to see what his mother looks like, I know that for a fact and that's why I do what I do so specialising specialising does not mean that you only have to photograph you know, a certain subject all the time, but what it means you marking your set and you sell yourself in that field and you also allow yourself to explore other areas when you have time. But you live and breathe that when you go to see a root canal specialist, you're pretty certain that he knows everything about the root canal, right? You're not just going to go to a general practitioner, ladies, when we go to robi, that woman knows what she's doing is this same thing. If I'm going to somebody for maternity photos or newborn, I want that person to live and breathe this there's a reason why I don't do weddings and I don't photograph dogs can't relate really to seniors don't have seniors yet maybe I will one day, but I can relate to pregnancy in newport because it is more than a photo to me. That woman is starting a life she's starting a life in her body and yes, she feels bloated and she feels tired and her feet hurt and she's cramping and I get all of that she's got maybe an hour with me, I guarantee that in that hour, I'm going to get the most amazing photos for her because I want to preserve her legacy for the family that she's bringing. It also means that you're focused and you're not handcuffed. I feel like people always afraid to say, I don't just specialize in it because when the phone doesn't ring and now he's calling me for pregnancy, I'm not gonna be able to pay my bills. Wow! Fourteen years I'm weather up and down of the economy, it has not been all roses for me in the economy, but what I do know for sure is that when the economy is down, people still are pregnant and they're still having babies. And so I feel like my business has stood the test of time because I have specialized that when the phone stopped ringing for family or for children or for beach sessions because honestly that's a luxury, right? The phone didn't stop ringing for pregnancy and newborn, because if you think about those times the fastest growing with shortest oration in a person's life, right? A woman is only pregnant for nine, ten months give a few weeks and then it's done it's done a newborn is only a newborn technically it's six weeks of life, but could be some people could say four weeks. Some people could say less, but you'll never get that time back. I have three children, eight, ten and twelve, and I could take a photo six months ago, and they probably don't look that different than if I take a photo now but that pregnancy and you warn, specialized till the day I die because it is such a short time and to me, it's the most important time in the world to photograph, be open and aware two cultures and personal preferences not everybody wants to get naked. I live in the land of the beautiful where most people do want to get megan, but I know that I don't want to be making running around pregnant, so I do tell people when they're doing pregnancy and newborn don't just assume that everybody wants to take their clothes off and don't be bummed out when the first twenty people don't it's not about how much you're showing it's about the fact that they have a baby in their body and you're trying to capture that time in their life. And so that's where specializing because really important. I have spent so many hours just trying. Teo, look at a woman's body and every person that comes in you'll see today these models are brand new. I mean, I spent five minutes with them I don't really know who they are really what their insecurities are, but I'm going to try to work with them and pose them and just show you some quick transitional posing toe howto kind of warm them up and loosen them because it's kind of a little bit nervous and a little bit intimidating you have to be able to impose a woman how to dress a woman and you have to be able to give direction fortunately I'm a new yorker and I know how to use my voice because when you're five people the dinner table if you don't use your voice, you're not getting dessert so I know how to use my voice I mean, a lot of photographers who there fight and shy and I have to tell you if you take me to a party, I'm going to probably be that quiet, shy person but I have a job to dio and I am job that people were coming in the spits typically for ah pregnancy session and I know that it's an investment it's still a luxury item I've met many women, so they've given the camera to their husband and, you know, taking a picture because they can't afford it just because you can't afford a pregnancy photography doesn't mean you can't have it done you can still do it at home and you can do it well, but you just have tio no, a couple of things that I'm going to try to show you today yeah, so one of things I like to tell a photographer's is if you are working with pregnant guide them direct them you want them to be just looking at you and you're looking at them and you're all there wondering am I doing this right? You want to be like, turn your tune there oh, you look good let's try this let's try that and compliment and direct all the time if you ever worked with models they're used to moving for you so you kind of khun sit back and let them do the work, but I feel like the majority of the people aren't models and you need to direct them and guide them. I have a connection, a reason behind your work I told you my reason and I did it without crying, which is huge for me because I cry every time I feel like story. But honestly, it's true, everybody has a story and that story takes them to where they are accepting especially be a master at your craft you know, I've been doing this fourteen years I'm just turned forty three I feel like I'm just getting started I feel like there's so much more than I have to learn and I honestly I feel like I'm going to spend my life trying to perfect my own work don't you like if you're going to choose to specialize in something whether it's pregnancy newborn animals don't feel you have to be perfect ing one you're an artist you're creative you're going to spend your life perfecting I get three little artists at home that are continually drawing and they're always ripping up their paper because they don't think their work is good enough how when since they've been bored been born I've been telling them how good they are and how amazing they are yeah why it eight ten and twelve do they still question themselves because their creatives and that's what we dio and that's how we get through our life by continually challenging in questioning yourself the first fifteen minutes of the session which I'm going to show you today is to connect with your clients you have to connect with their clients you've heard the saying you're responsible for the energy that you bring into the room your client's bringing their energy you have your energy you fought with your husband you relate your kids are listening to you your clients running late she's fighting with her husband her kids aren't listening to put these two in the room and you've got to make magic she wants to kill her husband you're tired I mean it could go on and on you have to literally just take a breath be like okay, I have an hour with this woman and let her know lead her energy you khun lead someone else's energy don't back down and get intimidated by their energy you know, when your kind come in and they're stressed in there this and there that just bring them to you and say I got this, I got this, you know, I'm going to take care of you I am clothing for you let's look at what you've brought I usually have clients bring some of their own clothing and I bring some of mine, so I've asked the models today to bring some of their own clothing the very first model we have, we're going to start with her own clothing and I'm going to lead you through transitional posing and then they're going to use some of my clothing I think it's important to have some things for your clients to where I don't think it's a requirement but I could tell you a million places to get just some things to help your clients to wear things that I think are essential before we get into shooting is music materials, fan water and chocolate? Maybe chocolate should be on top but there is I love fans every woman looks good with a fan and their huts they're making a baby they're hot have a fan have a fan and a big fan okay, you need water, chocolate and a little bit of protein snicker bars are great actually had a woman one time her husband was behind her went down and he caught her like a weight off my gosh and I'm thinking I have insurance I have insurance focus what's going on and her doctor had told her she had protein was eating in a protein in her diet she needed protein gene protein that day of course you need protein that day because she just didn't. And so down she went from that day forward I always wanted to have chocolate and things with protein in them bars you know, kind bars get all different kinds of bars protein and make sure that momma eats and drinks before you start photographing her because of pregnancy sessions can cause preteen pre term labor I have had many clients go into labor the next day. Why? Because you're moving them. I'm going to bend and twister and archer and move her in places that she's never done before what's gonna happen so the little person inside he's gonna go oh, I see there's light at the end of the tunnel he's going to start moving around and realize there's more room in that womb to get going and he started seeing the light and he's gonna start moving your issues and start moving down so it's very important we tell women the best time for photographs is obviously around seven or eight months but then again I'm in the land of the beautiful I have women that are nine months pregnant they've gained like ten pounds and I'm like okay come like two weeks before you're born but have a full meal get some rest make sure it's okay with your doctor you have to be careful you have to be careful I usually save the laying and sitting down poses for the very end but I don't want to get a woman up and down up and down, up and down so I'm going to start with transitional posing today we're going teo use a fan today a little challenging because the keynote I have is really for the entire time but I can't put the aquino while I'm shooting, so what we're gonna do is we're going after three segments were going to do transitional cozy, then we're going to go into backlighting, silhouettes and backlighting and then we're going to use a fan if two different models that were going to kind of bring back and forth you have questions, let me know if you have questions I don't know if anyone saying anything out on the world wide web, but we're going to bring it up for smiles all good okay, so we'll bring your first model and we're going to transition in closing rachel is coming how you guys doing good way can put music on because this whole camera situation going with music in her head music on a lot of my sessions actually because I'm usually I want them to hear me but every once in a while if I kind of get in the groove and I feel like they're in the groove let's put music on and also helps when you're doing nudes for some reason the music just help rachel come on you know that little clip okay so that little clip a little clip that little green clip yes rachel have far longer you thirty five weeks today it's your birthday today you're a dead woman say you were going out of your comfort zone today doing this stretching on her birthday right what about everything todo hey I'm out of my comfort zone two tricky but we can do this so she has a nice beautiful round valley we have a baby girl I do ask clients all the time I'm chick chat why? Because people not chatting it's not a lot of fun so I'm used to talking teo little people that don't talk back right? I mean because it's a mom you'll see when you have three kids you talk all day long and until they're speaking h they'll say nothing let me my son didn't top for like two years I just talk for him, I think we're going to start today and you would never talk back, so I feel like with my motherhood is good training for clients because you can talk to them and even if they don't talk back off, still keep talking so she brought her own clothing and so will usually tell people things to bring do I need that? Oh, her ok, well, just for a quick second cause we're gonna get shooting uh oh, we're doing that. You're like that way doing we're starting, we're going to do three segments that first is natural light. And I said before, in natural light in seattle, a little different than natural light in california stops a little different that I would be in california, that really isn't natural light, but we're going to do a great job anyway, and then we're going to go in the studio lights, but what I'm going to show you, it doesn't matter if you're a natural light studio light, it doesn't matter if you're shooting in a park on the beach for a studio, it doesn't matter if you have a camera in a pregnant model, you know a little bit about light, you'll be able to do it uh, but anyway, I don't know what we're saying, I've lost my she oh, I know what e I know what I was saying things to bring for their client for clients to bring I ask them do they want to show their belly very important is they said some cultures they cannot show their skin see that's very important to find out and if they say yes, then my next question I say is have you seen my work that's kind of important I want to know if they like my work I mean I'm assuming but sometimes I get random calls, they just need a photographer have you seen my working? Is there anything you like or don't like the reason I asked that is why why would I ask that? Because if they see something with maybe a nude pregnant women and they don't want to do nude, they're going to say rachel's one of us just like I saw your website and so she's like and I don't want to do that and so you know, obviously they're coming to me, right? And so I want to say, I want to know, so just if you were new client coming in, I'd say is there anything you like or don't like? And she'll say everything but the nude I'm comfortable showing my belly, but I'd like to be covered up right? So then I say okay brings some solid color clothing brings some things that go under your belly and just bring some natural pieces for everything in a bag I'm going to go through tell you what I like, what I don't like and I may have some things of my own, so I really wanted to just start with what was in her own closet to just show you how I would start warming up a woman and moving her. I have my little handy dandy clip I get these at home depot, I love these things because they're strong and I could squeeze him, you're the one they're like only guys can squeeze them your life. Okay, so this is little and I want to show her belly, so I'll take this shirt like this and just kind of pull it up and say, ok, let's, just get her her belly out and we'll put this clip underneath. I'm always like, hi, nice to meet you. I'm going up hurt don't mind me just going to go up there it's all good it's like going to the o b office? They're like destiny choose straddle it like a problem. Okay, so we'll put this somewhere here, okay? So you're gonna come right in the middle here and we're going to get a reflector and the camera, yes, now this is I asked, treat of live if I could bring my fan here I have this fan in my studio intestine and I love my fan because I don't need an assistant to use it I can just use it I can angle it this way and that way I just fan on amazon dot com and I feel like if you get stuck use a fan people always say okay I do this picture and that picture and then I just I don't know what to do and I'll say put a fan on and do everything you just did with a fan and if you go outside look for the breeze by the camera here a camera there and the lens cap good to know good to know ok so what we're going to dio is working oh the challenges so reflector is that I'm sorry I'll tryto talk just imagine in your mind okay so maybe before we put the reflector up let me explain what I'm going to dio how about that john and then that way they don't feel in fact I'll even do it without the camera how about that and then when I do the camera you'll know what I'm going to dio that sound good ok good so I almost how women just kind of sit back in your hands just sit back and this is the one time in your life you just let it go you know just have a full bali any and if I feel like like her belly? I felt it before and I'll tell people feel the belly it's still soft there's still room to go she's not ready to pop yet some women you touch their belly in it's like rock hard, she still has room and what happens is it contento look stopped so I'll tell them just blows things he just blow and really round out the belly you may not be able to see it, but I can see a difference I like that one leg bent because I think everybody looks good one like bent you don't want to just be a cartoon character like you're just like this with the bump right? That's not cute and so I always say just bend and I model everything and I think that's wildly important is to model even sometimes when I'm laying down all model before I get them down, I'll say I'm going to get down why she's pregnant? I'm not gonna have her lay down and be like, oh yeah, I don't like that let's start that and they're like, really, I'm like a beached whale down there. I mean, I've been pregnant once you're down there, you're not getting back up, so now that I'm and when I was pregnant was so great for shoot because I would be like, you know, but now that I'm not pregnant like hold on I'm going to sit down when you do this and I'm going to that and look at me and even with nude what I do with nude is all oppose them and say this is what you're going to dio and then I leave the room and I tell the men you're going to oppose the woman in this way and they love because they're like I got this right the men are like I got this I can give a man an instruction I mean right you guys are on it but like I got this we got it and so they'll help owes the woman which is really great and so we're going to bend the leg I think that any woman of any shape if you just bend it a little bit and so we're going to arrest the first shot that I always do is just looking down is just handed that hands under the belly and search is going to look down and why don't I do that is because then they're not just looking at me I'm not just looking at them that everyone's just wondering what's gonna happen next if I tell them that just kind of looked down then I'll put a fan kind of right next to me if I just show you five of this sorry if I just put a little bit of fan big smile and bring your chin out there and turn your face a little accredit me rachel a little this way good and down and chicken looking over the ledge I don't know why I say that what? See what she's doing she's looking down here so I want you to come to me and you may have to do this right because you're that again just look down ray nobody wants a double chin nobody does, so you're going to be back there going shin out you know, like I don't know why I say chicken looking over the ledge everyone I say that to say and I think it makes no sense whatsoever but it works for some people people like oh like that but so you if you tell them to look at your belly, you'll be like, well, I can't see anything if I if I look that way, if I looked this way, I can't I'm like we'll just pretend I don't really care if you can see anything, but I want done and I'll come over and guide them, so look down again and she now out, out, out, out and even a little bit more and leans me and down and down because I want her she now I don't want a double chin and I'll kind of come right up here and just kind of get her here out of her face and look you can see I'm going to take a quick picture but she looks so pretty with the fan so a transitional posing is a serious of quick movements very quick right so it's going to be you're looking down at the belly you're smiling big smile big smile now and down down down big smile we're so happy good now look right at me he sketching out good beautiful now hand above below and start moving you're just gonna be like this like this and turn your good and she now and then back to me good and see how those air very quick movements well what's gonna happen I'm going to do that again but the reflectors gonna happen you may not see it but you'll be able to see the still what's gonna happen is in those siri's of quick movements there's going to be one damn, I'm not looking for a thousand great photos remember being in school and my professor this was during film would say if you get one out of a roll of twenty four or one of the role of thirty six you got it I mean, shoot one hundred fifty images for pregnancy, but when I stream it down for the client they're only going to see like fifty or sixty of the best and they're never going to see duplicate poses because I'm going to streamline it but I want to do is I want to get her moving because I don't know what her best light is I don't know what her best site is in the only way for me to warm her up, relax her energy get are focused on me and to ensure that I'm going to get a good picture is to keep her moving and watching the light the whole time so that's what we're gonna do so if you're blocked for the reflector, I'm so sorry and I'll try and talk above this fan but my talking right now is more for directing her, which is kind of what I just showed you and what I'm gonna do is except that I can't shoot a fifty because I shoot so fast it's actually a good thing that he's saying that I in a fast shooter and I never go less than one twenty fifth of a second I'm usually at one sixtieth of a second in my studio one sixty one six steen I shoot anywhere from five point six to seven point one because I'm a controlled environment I'm a fast mover and shaker if I try to do anything underneath a hundredth of a second is not going to be good so if I was shooting natural in the studio is she with twenty four to seventy to me it's my absolute favorite lens and then if I'm on location of shooting with the seventy two hundred my second favorite lens but four city of the twenty four to seventy to me the best lines possible we're going twenty fifty three to sixteen hundred natural light in seattle way eleven okay rachel so we got this right we're gonna do a quick thirty seconds set I'm going to put a fan on and I'm just gonna worry about directing you not necessarily if you can't hear me because of the fan so I really want you bent and relaxed yes good job you guys where's my refund you want to show the before and after you guys use reflectors for me sure you before and after we love reflected all right look down your belly I'll show you a straight shot without a reflector big smile good and now let's break actually that's kind of fun that looks kind of good a little hot hold on let's do another one chin out big smile there riccio big smile chin out more more more more more down down down to your belly go straighter to me yeah and chin down now here's what I want yet straighter on I want to go blow your hair and you're gonna be really leaning out big style there ist beautiful I'm gonna stuff real quick because this image that you're going to see is actually kind of cute without the reflector you know we owe you grace you're so funny. Oh, we've only done one shot we saw some time ago here. Oh, I love that pretty her hearing's air. Beautiful. So, you know, the reflector is optional. Maybe don't use her. I mean, she looks really good like that, right? Maybe we know you's a reflector. I like it. Well, we'll let the light fall off that side and we'll just go with it. How about that? And love it already? Okay. Let's, creeks that we got this. All right, here we go now. Very important. I want you to stretch. Really it's not gonna be comfortable. The idea is not for you to be comfortable. The idea is for you to be good. Look good. Okay, so when you're when you're out there, that posture has to be up like you're pulling a string up through your body you ever do pallotti's, right? You gotta pull up through the core. So you're up there and you're stretching up that chin and you're leading, I'm going to get you moving, but still don't lose just try to stay up and I'll keep it a quick set that you can relax whenever people have pregnancy such as me there like I'm exhausted, I've been here like, fifteen minutes. I'm like I know that I tell you this is going to be comfortable see the experience because if I did totally wrong that's not the photographer you're picked the wrong photographer I know somebody gotta do yoga and relax and meditate their soft music and they go through gorgeous transitions look that's not me okay I'm gonna move you're going to move and we're gonna get great shots just have to go with your style you don't have to shoot as fast as me don't talk to me I'm just going to show you guidelines so we knew shoot you know what to do all right here we go hands under your belly okay we're relaxed sitting there your gina that we're gonna start from that position again and you're gonna look right down big smile good beautiful look right up at me good lovin good you look right through that light put wendy and above and one hand below on when you look out for that light your shirt a little bit when you look out to that light I really want you to stretch I'm all about chins and next and really stretching you're gonna keep your arms away from your body e I would show you find a short sleeve shirt on but women's arms together close to the body like always keep him out I don't know so just keep him out and you're going to stretch I want you to feel like this and you're just going to stretch over and you're gonna look out to that light I'm gonna see if I could let that, like, capture the side of your faith and you're still oh, good you're wondering, right? I put my body ah ha! I don't know where I want your body let's just turn a little bit here. Bend the leg closest to the camera and we spend the leg closest to the camera. Another one because this tends to look heavy. So when the leg closest to the camera this is bent over and I changed the position go back, go back because we're transitioning. All right, so you're bending your leg, remember how I wanted those arms in the body and you're gonna go you beautiful big smile down to your shoulder chin down to your shoulders good right there and just big smile good and just look down to your shoulder a little bit good stretch that you now beautiful nap with both hands into your belly good and look back to me. Uh, look back just with your eyes, smile, smile so happy back to me with your eyes but when you do there, stay that way and just look with your eyes ready, got it, okay, see how little little little little quick just little tiny things I don't know if we can see the one where she looked back at us is trying to get the one little segment I do a lot of books, and what I love about transitional posing is then you can do it in a serious in a book we're going to bring her has been jeff in and she's going to do a little movement with him and then she's going to go change, we're gonna bring one of our model other models in who's going to do a quick set of transition opposing I can really understand how I want them to move. So, jeff, so this time since she's a pro now jack, you're going to see the scene thing, but now we have the husband and I still will do this for that a reflector that's probably going to be a little bit dark, but let's try so, jeff, you're going to go in next to her, your right arm around her and the left arm is on her belly. Good, you can put your hand on hiss I like it, but maybe put your see. You've got this if you can understand what I'm saying without me actually telling you done time, that's what I tell my clients all think I'm like, oh, you're connected with me, are you you were good good because half the time it's in my brain and getting it out fast enough, right? That's? Why would I tell people all the time? It's planning next shot while you're doing the first so I'm already planning in my head when I'm doing that for shot what I'm going to do next with you, marty, planning your next outfit change already planning the next pose so anything she's doing? I'm already already shot it I'm already on the next one if you can think ahead and plan your next move while you're doing your first, you'll be good, okay remember you're going to set them back a little bit, then your leg just put your hand below her back I put my hand like you can see my hand, you can see my hand buying the fan and I come in I want you really close to her face into the light, into our beautiful natural like good look how good you are she now? No, I'm not going to blow the fan because jeff polly wouldn't appreciate it very much guys don't usually like the only time we'll do it is if the guy has a bald head, then I go in for the fan, okay, so I really want to keep your hair away from your face you're still up on your posture okay, now I need to see the baby okay, so let's get her out here a little bit and we're gonna do three I would have my end result is I just want like three pictures of you guys okay, so I may take six to get there but I'm just looking for three probably different pictures jeff coming closer closer closer lead your chin in this way good rachel don't go in there yes, she and out down like a chicken looking over the lead she got this good I feel like I need to be I'm usually on a step stool yeah you know what, jeff can we can we have a reflector right up here to just get light because I don't know if you see there is no well john jeff john now we're in trouble I've got two jays yes, yes, yes, yes, yes because I'll just shoot from the waist up but he had that looks so rachel's eyes open she's a blinker blinker in the house. Okay, there we go. How does that look? Much better probably come in it looks better to me. Big smile you're so happy it's going to hurt you gonna smile way keep it now okay good, good and down okay, now you're both looking right at me beautiful now you're both looking down to the baby good she now rachel just lean down good a little more riccio confection down good now rachel you're going to take your hand and put it right up on jeff right there there it isthe good jefe bring your face a little out this way here's what I want you're looking at me thank jeff you're gonna give her a kiss and then you're going to look back at him back to transition one teo three so we're going to shoot it else how you kiss and then you're going to look at each other you ready no he can kiss over here you want teo might not be that might be the next segment here we go our section is out good right there beautiful now just give her a kiss beautiful now you're looking at each other oh, I love it okay you know you want to kiss you think it they're good so see how quick one two three you guys can take a break that was beautiful gonna come in and we're going to go through a very quick transition as well but she's going teo I'm going to try and bring you through a little bit longer set because usually when someone comes in hot green underwear is totally intentional that's what we're going with today that's right? Everybody needs a little are you having a boy or a girl a boy but see green green my fears color okay so I decided to give an address so I have a line of maternity clothing and this is one of them and the reason is because when women say I have nothingto were lola and after shooting for so many years I ended up designing dresses because frankly I was tired of wrapping women had wrapped hundreds of women so I just started designing dresses one by one to try to flatter the pregnant model and then she can say wow I have nothing where I literally have women come with their underwear in a bag and nothing else and they usually bring like nude or black or white never green and they bring it in a bag get the key mouse underwear right some solid plan seattle that's green so so they'll come with their underwear in a bag like this is all I have only perfect and I have raps and I'll show you some of the materials that I haven't dresses but back in the day before I had gowns I would go to t j maxx target and I would imagine everybody pregnant everybody would be like okay that shirt you're wearing my unbutton it but one button you're pregnant that's what are you wearing that cardigan you're wearing I'd shoot the maternity section I choose an extra large section and go in the men's section and I would buy all kinds of things that had nothing to do with a pregnant woman but then I would use them on pregnancy so you can kind of get creative so you're going to come right in the middle and what I would like to do is we're going to do again we're going to transitional posing and I'm going to just keep guiding you in directing you and this is what I would do with a client I'm gonna just pretend like you're my client off the streets and let's get going let's warm up this session, okay? So we're gonna bend the legs whichever you like, so we want to sit like this good skins still staying tall we're going to start with the same post, but I'm goingto leader a little bit different, so you're going to start with just hands under the valley, keep those arms out, the chin is going to look down and we're just gonna look down more, more, more yeah, stretch out more so you could be like this good and I want a big smile I don't always have them smiling all the time but I do like a mixture of smiling and serious that other leg just bend it a little bit more in yes, I love it I would like to just lighten it up just a little bit look how pretty looking look thank you you look amazing, just like who you know what I don't even think you need to be up there what if you did what you did before and just bounce it back into her face? I think that's great okay, so now I'm gonna we're just gonna keep moving so I want one hand below one hand above and we're going to look right at me big smile good let's go right to your right shoulder good oh, I like that look right out to the window beautiful good I want you to face the audience this way keeping your hands on your valley you're gonna bend the light close to camera and you're going to twist back here just back here shoulder down good chin down good right there looking down I love that thing down even more even more beautiful stay right down there and look right at me gorgeous I love it little hint of a smile good chin up a little bit oh, my god. She looks so pretty head a little this way love it. Take this hand and just go right here. Just very gentle yeah, right there. Just restaurant they're good with the other hand on top of the belly good. Give me a little smile good chin down a little bit good and just look down with your eyes and love it let's take the other hand and put it in your face as well so you have two hands? Yep and let's just kind of work with the hands and I really want you to stretch I want to get that belly out so turn more this way and just arch and so sometimes I'll even come in got it really been that leg and look stunning and structure chin out into the hands here here, here for you I love it so sometimes you kind of need to go because they can't see it and let's look, now we can get a nice arching her back we can really get the belly up, the leg looks amazing and you're just going to kind of gently look down into your hands. You're absolutely stunning if you're unsure what to do next, I like to climb up I'll even get a little higher and angle down looked right at me love it now take the other hand and foot just work down so we're going to like this we're just gonna work and we're gonna work it all the way down so we're going to start back up here and let it's just work your hand down many and go just start moving it little bit little stop, smile good and just rest it on your belly beautiful dropped the other hand, put it underneath your belly good pulled out right arm away from your body could stretch out arch your back a little bit straighten that had a little bit more look right at me chin down smile beautiful gorgeous way before we change the lighting but see how quick that wass just rapid small movements direction the entire way I can take those twenty years I don't even know how many I shot exposures and then I can pop him in light room and just look good good, good, good, good and I can take those twenty and just knock it down to like the three best photos I mean, look she looks amazing you got a beautiful face and just telling him it's okay to just start moving on your own by giving your instruction sam let's start here now let's just move every time I've done that with a woman they've all been something completely different no two poses will ever be the same let's try one more set with your arms and let's see what we can do with the arms again just having a using your mind when you're stuck let's just try this so you're going to face the baseball it's that light okay the arm gannon modeling so the arm, the leg, the leg, the arm, whatever else okay, so this leg has been and I want you to put your arms up yet and we're going to take this left arm here left. Jab, alan and pull it back more and straighten your head a little bit more good and just really art. I want that leg. Yep. Good. And just stay there for a minute and let's, just work through this, okay? Give me a little smile. Beautiful. Now let's, lean into this left arm a little bit. Look down your face. I love it. There it is. Really stretching to that arm that left arm perfect and stay there and drop that right arm onto your belly. Beautiful. Now put it a little bit below your belly. Good, big smile and look back at me and laugh. Lovett, draft the other hand. Look at her. Done. See how pretty she is. Beautiful waiting clicker. Okay, fine. Doing good. Okay, any questions? Are you good? So what's changed. Checking in with the internet. I have a question. I'm hands, they always begin. You know, you didn't have to get a lot of direction to the hands, but for some reason, when I voted through what do I do with my hands that it's all over? Because then they're staring at their hands. But you didn't mention really hands, which is, and they still look beautiful in every shot yeah, so very good question couple things in the hands of one if they're very veiny, I just want to say I forgot to mention this she looked fine, but sometimes women come very veiny have them hold their hands up till the veins go away and then go down so you want to keep the handle it's a good tip, huh? Very many hands up and then down, I'll just what I do is I just accused I go, tom, in the beginning and then I go and they go, okay? The other thing is again, you need a starting point, so if you say I'm going to start with hands just below the belly and then we're going to move, we're going to move this way this sway this way, we can do a hard we can hug and think of things like this notice how she just dropped her hands in the end and she looked amazing, they don't always have to do things with her hands. She just dropped it and I was like, done love it and that's why I like to move the arms, but keep the hands soft and not so like in the face. The first one is that you seem to be shooting with really, really wide with a lot of negative space, yet is there a particular reason that you're doing? Yes, that is a great question yes, I remember during my film days my professors like get it right in the camera and one professor that get it right in the other camera, the other one's a crop in the dark and there's different rules of school of thought for that and then bring on digital cameras and you have a camera ratios and all that here's the thing I like a lot of negative space because I want to leave my options open I want to maybe do horizontal, maybe I want to do naked men want to horizontal way they want to do vertical maybe I wanted to square see the image right there see how I can I don't have to shoot in the rule of thirds all the times, but a lot of times when I'm post processing the rule of thirds, all the center like I want that, but if I only shot a particular way that I would be stuck and I had it very, very quickly, I'm not a five hour edit girl I can take one hundred images and knock it down a forty in like ten minutes, but I know the possibilities. We saw a lot of books we saw a lot of chemists is I have been caught one too many times shooting too tight and the client says I want a thirty by forty and I'm screwed because because because because I slapped him too tight I love to tell mike I'm free crap for them so while you see a lot of negative space when they come in to see their photos I crop it cropping you know horizontal vertical or tight then when they go to order their photos whatever they order in like I got this not really max I got plenty of space to work with all right I have a question everyone on the internet always wants to know about gear that we're using so john could you please let us know about this fan that is going on over here people want to know what what the fan is way okay and I thank celeste please let me bring my family and I bought it in paid and shifted to teo here max aaron two exes m a x x there's a post on the web site got a pregnancy newborn dot com and there's a lighting overview post or fan post its on their family and why that fan why have you found that to be oh because I don't need anybody to direct it for me yes that's huge I have an assistant but sometimes I don't and I love it because I literally will lean on here and shoot great and I can aim it this way that way it does go lower and I just love it at fourteen years on scott it's just my favorite that also mean I can't alien be lights and love alien bees have been using alien be since day one there's so easy there compact and love them is she with the cannon mark three twenty four to seventy I have a new usm to lens worth every penny if you have soft images it's your lines perfect all right thank you I think we can keep going ok here we go so we're going into the next segment which is a silhouette we love silhouette everybody looks good in a filament she is wearing one of my two sisters that low but honestly you don't need this you can do it with anything right do any material we have knees but you could do with anything now idea silhouettes is the subject is in front of the light so if you're at the beach if you're at a park I was at a client's home one time she was on bed rest and we opened the door and we shot in front of the door the light was coming through the door and we did a silhouette so you don't need studio light with studio light our lights are aimed on the background and we're turning the lights all the way up I think they already are because john's amazing and so everybody needs a john in these in new yorkers so even better so I turned the lights all the way up here that quick pop on dh then there's distance between the wall, the subject, the subject and me so you know, I usually do anywhere from four to six feet between the subject and I and the subject in the light but when I'm going to do is I'm gonna play play with light a little bit and show you because she's going to come even a little bit closer to me now the silhouettes are what they're about shadow, right? Just like in the old days when you held up your fingers to flashlight it's the same thing the light was behind your fingers so that the interesting thing about silhouette says you have to be careful because if I put her hands in the middle of her belly what do you see a bumpy belly when he wants a bumpy belly right? So it's very important I tell clients okay, we're doing silhouette now, which means that I'm very concerned about the shape of your body. I do tell them this smile sometimes why? Because smiling thing is your bone structure. So so I tell people sometimes if I mean like not crazy, I'll be like, let me just not crazy about the facial structure how it's looking I'll say just smile a little bit, then I can just see sometimes no sometimes yes, we're going to do a quick set with just her and then we're going to bring her husband back in and love to do this with children, you know, it's it's something that's just so fun and it's just so classic and timeless they could be nude that could be really wearing anything just pay attention to clean lines and then you still have to pay attention that double chin I'm sorry it doesn't go away okay, so again let's start out with just a basic thing and I think I want your hands in the back because I want it really want to get that baby out and I really want an arch so your arch and you're lifted up and you're going to just, well, let's just have you look straight up, you just look up to the life and just really arch and again I'm modeling her I'm going to get her back out because no one was going to do that around around around right it's like when you go to work out of pallotti's and they're like stretch and then the woman comes and she's like and you're like, oh my gosh, that's what you mean it's the same thing you want to just stretch them out because they're only going to go a little bit keep that bin that leg again keeping attention to the safety of the baby and the stage that they're in their pregnancy on that leg beautiful okay so my very first okay john you already tested look amazing already oh how fun I like I've never seen myself still about before it's kind of call so so I want I want art we've a little spot on your belly we're going yeah can we okay so here's what I want to do I really want you to look up smile I did a one to three picture right there for you in the last picture did not have that much space in it see how pretty that isthe look at that stop it isn't that funny way didn't do anything all we did was put the lights in the background right you can have so much fun with silhouettes so much fun okay so we'll look down and keep our chin out because you know we're going to see it if you don't so really stretch that too now good maybe put hands below your belly good and smile and shin down more and more and more and more and more more more, more more more like way down like you're looking down on your belly but now keep your chin out they're beautiful oh standard except for your fingers what's going on down there but that's okay so let's get a little space because I wanted I want to see the salvo I want to see that space between your back and the elbow so pull this arm back there we go my cease in space that we won't have that finger issue looked out and smile look at her face how it changes so cute we could even do a little bit more space it's come in like that and love it now what I'm gonna do is I'm going to show you her husband's going to come in and then we're going to play with the light for a quick minute. We're going to bring her a little closer to the light and what's gonna happen light spills on her right? And we just kind of have a little backlight play it's one of my favorite things to dio so jeff, come in and you're going to come in and I want you to give her a kiss and you guys are gonna have some distance between you two is like, I have no idea of the kissing on camera so much. Oh no, you know, I don't even kiss just look at her so both hands are on the belly local o beautiful rachel arms out like this so I can see good. I want you to just lean up in the look at each other so jeff lean in lean in closer colusa touch foreheads, both you looking down in the valley oh, you're so cute, I can't even handle it got it now both of you hold each other's faces get the hands out of the equation oh you're uh so cute that looks weird that looks weird can't anything you'll see how I shoot cooking to q q now yeah we're so when you're shooting silhouettes you have to pay attention to the weird so we're gonna try one more jeff hand sound to the arms and rachel you're hands are back where you are and you're going to just kiss each other you're just goingto put your fun comes in your pocket about that and just kiss pucker up though no swishy don't know you're here there you go so cute oh look at you two all right? I love it even before they kissed so fun it's so great for pregnancy announcement books I have a client that put camp silhouette kim this is in the nursery pure clean black and white let's have a little light spill because I have to keep track of my time a little bit so you're gonna just all you do is just say let's see what happens if you step a little closer to the light let's just see what happens and so you're going I want you to hold your dresser and you're going to bend those arms I don't know if I'm gonna like it but let's have a chin up in this arch our body good, you know fall and so what I like to do is bracket so at first okay drop your dress, stay there at first I was twenty two and then bracketing is where you do a lot of the same exposures just at different same pictures of different exposures, right? So sometimes I just like to bracket the light and see so I was twenty then I went to twenty take a little step closer to the light just a little step you're going to put a hand on your belly and a hand below your belly and twist a little bit to meet and just look down to your shoulder beautiful little smile straight ahead chin down your shoulder so I ended up going from twenty pounds of fourteen and see how how it's just softening of the light one of my favorite things to do is tow also shoot in monochrome and if you're shooting in cannon if if you're shooting in monochrome and urine droplets j peg the jpeg will be black and white but the robby color and I love to see silhouettes ing in black and white so many times I will shoot in monochrome owed but I'm in ron jape, eh when I'm proofing or looking at the image it's in black and white of the rods in color and it's a great way to really like play because I'm I was a black and white film shoot are my days so I love to see things in black and white this whole siri's I would do in black and white make it really pretty let's just do one more you're gonna bend this life I want you to put an arm up yet right there no no no I like how you're looking back at me is beautiful I just want to see a pop of the eyes okay, relax and you can come on rachel and we'll just take a look at that and so it kind of looks a little funky on the screen I don't know if I'm allowed to process thes and then showed the creative level show them but I would process this in black and white and really make it really soft and muted and it would look amazing so first silhouette strong silhouette she's in the middle of the subject you're working on hard light and then you just bring him a little bit closer and move around and just kind of playing experiment fun, huh? Okay our last lighting that we're going to do is going to be using the fan and this is going to be a little bit tricky because they might not be able to hear me my voice using the fan but I'm going to explain what I'm doing with anne and rachel you're going to stay in those clothes because if I have time I'm gonna bring you back in with the shawl yes, we are. And I mean it. Just while he's getting ready. I'm going to explain what I'm doing with ann and also talk quickly about fabrics because I'm brought different fabrics and things to kind of show you some things to work with. So this is the same thing that women use. Rachel, come over here a quick second. Oh, danielle, this is a drug. Do I have? Maybe I don't. But I bring this kind of rap with me over the silk. I'll take the silk. Just bring them both over with me for a quick second. Just over here. I'll spend a minute talking about fabrics. Okay, so this is a silk and what I love about silk is it blows and we may try and play around with. I don't know if we'll have enough time. But if you just look, look at how look at that it you can see you can see it, right? And so you looked when I used to go to materials and the people at the factory places like, what are you doing now? And I would be like, look to fly and they would be like it flies and I would get the women out there and nothing else. Right, get him out in the fabric maybe like let's talk about fabrics you know something like this where it's more of a cheesecloth is great for just covering a mama's tummy and again I'd like to talk about planning the next shot while I'm doing the first so look how yummy that isthe right it's just a piece of big cheese cloth now you take her put her in silhouette oh my gosh! Can you see it beautiful or you can take the same material and do like this and love fabrics I grew up with my mom who sewed and sewed and sewed and I'm like a kid in the candy store with fabric and so you take this let's say she has no bron not gonna happen and she's just looking down how pretty is that? So you want to look for things that are light that our theory that have texture this we use for a baby wrapped but it's beautiful for a shell too because some women don't like their arms. So if you're holding right here and you turn sideways and bellies out and now twist back to look come on so pretty and then you have texture in there and so if you imagine the shot is just her tummy with textures but one step further and ask him what they're decorating their nursery in are they dealing with textures and colors and really you're don't argue there doesn't open up your mind also, you forgot about hands, right? And you're like you're like an hour later, your mind is just going because you start pulling out textures and ideas and she's like, I don't like the arms and then you start looking and then you like she's got good cleavage, it's all going on and it's so fun, which is very simple fabrics, chiffon, souks, cheese cloth also wonderfully simple and beautiful. Okay, so in what am I going to do is we're going to do movement I love teo asked my clients to move and it's intimidating come on, where are you like and you're dancing today, okay, no problem and so I remember a couple years ago I had a really quiet client and we're just moving along and I was like, well, I'd love to just kind of get you moving and then she's like, you know, I was like a world class famous gymnast like, I don't even know she, like, won awards in like another country, then like what? And she just took on a life of her own, another client I had, they started moving really quickly with each other and they just for really intimate and I'm like, what's going on here, they're like a russian ballroom couple stop! I mean, come on, I'll just sit down and you just do your thing. So you wanted, like, that energy coming into the room, you want to know what's involved with that energy coming into the room? Who are you? Where'd you come from, you know, don't just imagine they're just a nine month cranky pregnant women woman, you know, you want to be like they have a whole other life, pretty motherhood, right? Like I actually was a normal human being before I became a mother. Shocking. I know. So it's like you have to think, what did they do before hand and pull it out? So we're going, teo quick, we've got five minutes to go in this lighting here, so really I love fabric set moves, we're going to put the fan hein and this is another one of the gals that we haven't, and the bottom is wonderful, you have to pay attention to the legs those legs have to be we've got to be bending, so I've told her earlier that she's bending close to the camera if she turned she spending in those arms are out. So what I usually do in a woman when a woman looks me she's like, I'm going to do what now, and I'll just work with me. We may hate it we make trash it let's just try it and so I'll just tell them I'm going to try I'm just going to get a fan and let's just do it and it may be a bird twenty five images and you may get one magic one that literally well just think you got this you just want those little moments in your life and it may come once a month that may come once a year and you just those little moments that are just it's like it's like just enough to say I can do this let's go with it that's what you look for okay? Are we ready to go? All right and we shall have music for you. Okay? You're going to come a little closer to me you're gonna bend that leg let's check let's do an exposure check chin down looked right at me you beautiful trying to put the fan more on your clothing good. And I wanted to just kind of really twist. Uh look att stopping you look so you you do what you're doing to keep the chin on a smile and shin down love it now look down to your material wait were you doing that to heart? It just took a life of its own I think it might be too much exposure back there but always guys, you're good she's like where's this hammer go you're not gonna go away although you are so little you could but let's try to keep you on this all right let's do that one more time you're ready now here's the thing she's teeny tiny how far along are you oh lord ten pounds we've gained seven six yeah see okay so blow it out away look pregnant so here's the challenge your chin is out your legs out chin is down sorry guns down now but you're gonna look you're going to look at me this way you're going to look that way if you're going to look for the fan this way the whole time that belly has to be blown out and you're smiling and having the best time ever got it no problem here we go good beautiful now let's let's let's get that material going there good now look back good and just keep moving I want you for thirty seconds to just keep moving I only looked at me briefly oh my god you look amazing love it okay that's awesome thank you so much that was great that was great yeah we're good I expected to spend longer on that but she just nailed it I was like wow what do you do when it doesn't go so perfectly I'll be like yeah okay when I can use that let's go next next yeah yeah because I let my clients know let's try it you have you paid me? I'm yours I'm willing to go wherever you want me to go I have no inhibitions with you, it's only your inhibitions and your limits limits that you're going to allow me to take or not take so you tell me you give me permission I give you permission we try it if it works it doesn't work let's move on fabulous attitude and I love it I mean, you have to write you can't have I actually freeze if there's a preconceived notion or in an expectation right my system be like, oh, no! And they want like that image like, oh, no, because I get nervous because I'm like I created that image with that client at that time and I'll tell them I can't guarantee that I'm going to get that I'm going to take you through the steps that I got it but that was her time, her energy, her space in life I don't know if I can get there with you and if you're willing to get to allow me to get there with you awesome well, I do I know you have another keynote to go through so we'll wait on questions, okay half until after that if we still have time okay, something all right, you're doing good, yes, the models are done another round of applause it's hard to do this half naked and being exposed and for the whole world to see I give them much things. Thank you so much, that's great. So I was like, you know, you're going to see, and I told them that they could include this is the download if you purchase the course because I couldn't really get through it. But just explaining that transition is the key he too smooth session is to lead them through small transition of movement that allows him to be their offensive south. I mean, you've heard this before in a photography you gotta reach, you got to get deeper. I mean, I want to get too emotional because I'm trying to do some crying, but it's gotta be about mohr than a photography it has. Teo, if you're going to do this for your life and maybe you're not maybe your hobbyist, but this is my life. This is part of who I am. I'm a woman, I'm a mother, I'm a photographer, I'm a child of god these this is how I choose to use my life. Do you have to make it more than about that? Use transitional posing, push your clients through the positions I love books, this is from a page in a book just so simple, just so simple look up look down look to the shoulder look down through the breast line soup rice tells you about breast line all the time you know what it is add the fan in between ad hand movements around the valley with arms twist extend to the side I mean you can literally have notes back in the day when I was first starting out I tell you a secret I had a little cabinet where I keep all my equipment and I had notes and pictures my favorite inspiration used to devote the magazine and I used to make my own little scrapbook part of the download of this program I think is my mobile posing guys and so now I'm imposing guys for for photographers but I used to make my own posing night I had a notebook and I still have it and I would rip out pages from magazine and I pictured everybody pregnant ah woman sitting on the bed in our underwear arching pregnant and then I would do that and I would rip those things out and I would put him in my cabinet and if I was stuck in a session okay hold on a quick second I'm just going to get something oh got that okay so let's do that and I would like write myself notes not lying true starry because I had to do it over and over and over because don't write don't you think you're going freeze and so I would be like okay, I got this I got this even now with my iphone if I'm I'm afraid I'm gonna forget something I write myself notes it's okay? We're not perfect beings were in perfect if we were perfect we wouldn't be in heaven okay blowing in the wind get a big fan that doesn't require assistant we went through all that fans or cold don't forget if your girl's shivering there turn the fan off okay, so we talked about fabrics we're gonna get through this see how easy that is just let the wind take it and she's outside by the way and so just allowing your subject to go I didn't tell him to do that and she just did it okay, okay, so I'm going to get through all this because we did this but this is silhouettes starting with the f twenty two f stop and you can see the different tones and it's all just them moving closer and away from the light. Okay, so we're going to talk about wrap up in personal perfection because I think personal perfection doesn't exist, it doesn't exist, so stop trying to get it photography is an art creative medium right? And you need to be being creative interpreter for your subject so how your work is going to evolve is dependent on the subject you're working with right it's a partnership together so I tell people all the time of all they're going to change over time I'm like five people ago right if you think like who I was when I was a rebellious teenager hanging everybody because I didn't have a puerto rican mother that looked like me and then going through my twenties and trying to figure out who I wass and then my thirties and I'm in my forties and I'm like it's okay it's okay uh is a lifelong process relish it enjoy it center to gift one talk really quickly about some other key items that I think you're really important not just for pregnancy but for any type of subject is model calls when I started out I remember telling you guys that I was doing child models right that was my day job my evening job my job my weekend job was model calls was getting friends and family to take pictures for me because what happens in the digital age is everyone's like pushing on facebook I need models any free this I need that I need this and then what happens that was last week now they speak I'm charging and then the person's like well how are you different seven days ago then you were now and I actually had a newborn client come to me one time and they were brand new and they said we actually used someone else for pregnancy and she was just starting out so it's really cheap, and then we went to look for a newborn, and the price was like ten times as much as we wanted to know what changed in three weeks. And so you didn't go to her for the newborn. They pay full retail for me. I didn't know what otherwise I would have called up and said, I'm sorry, so I took his model calls as a part time job and I do workshops now some of you know, I do do model clothes for my own workshop if I'm testing a line or because we have the dress line, I'm literally pulling my assistance. I have two pregnant assistance right now, you know I love them. I love pregnant assistance up pull people off the street, I'll go to the doctor's office, but it's not how we say it it's not being like today, I'm free tomorrow or not, you know, I'm saying so if you need to learn experiment, practice doing on the side. When I started charging, I start charging my regular rate right away. I didn't say I'm twenty five dollars today, fifty dollars tomorrow I don't always next week I just started a regular rate because I knew lighting honestly have been shooting for ten years I mean, I mean, this is a twenty nine, so I had the camera my hands since nineteen so I felt like I knew light did I knew everything about posing no, do you not have tickets? A good picture? Yes, the minute I register my business and call the photographer called myself a photographer recharged my dad's an accountant so I know that you charge and you register and you do all that stuff and then I just worked on my own skills separate that makes sense. I think a lot of people go wrong right now because they're trying to be free and then not you can't be clear in your offering your trade don't over promise and don't ever reshoot a model call it's just like a regular shoot lincoln I'm saying what if it doesn't work? I'm very honest with my clients, especially with a newborn they say I want to do this I want to do kim pose I want to do this yeah, that would be splendid. So I would love to do that too. But here's the deal I'm gonna kind of take notes I want you to tell me everything you want to do and let me try it you know people come to me with ipads of pictures of other photographers they come to me with, I've had some drives of other photographers work and I'm like okay kind of listen download of the tigers report f y I but what's what's happening here do they really I'm not cheap so they're not coming to me to get a better deal what's happening there coming to you to try to tell me what their vision their idea what they want to look like they're not trying to copy x y z photographer there saying I chose you but I know you don't know anything about me and so this is what I like this is what catches my eye so I'm okay with that show me pinterest show me your magazines show me anything you like it gives me an idea of what you like now let me see if I can get you there because I have women that'll show me nude poses of pregnant women and their like this like they're wearing this far from like button up sweater and boots and they're like I'm not taking off my clothes but I really love this picture of a nude woman and it's like I know they wanted but they're not ready to do it it's kind of like a date you need warm up time I need for my time so we come in we started transition opposing we have our warm up time they will get to see second base third base some transition by the end of the day they're like naked so you know, I don't want to, like start a session with them naked. I'm not running any time, right? So it's like it's like stay with boudoir too? We all want to look good. We want to look amazing. So I'm I'm okay with that. Just then let me take my over my creative space and see what you can create together. A very marketing quickie. I'll be this place. I've been displaying an obese in two thousand, nonstop I've been will be displaced. People have to be patient with toby displays. I hear from timers all the time. I can't get a displaying and in a doctor's office, I can't get this there's, another photographer, their patients, patients, patients. I got a call last week from head o be in a hospital that I have been talking to for three years about doing their entire labor and delivery in the hospital. Three years out of the blue. Last week she called me, saying, I got it, you got it, it's, all yours, the whole hospital's like yours. Three years so it's, like people have to understand that I have never stopped marketing. I don't look at marketing is something I'd like to do list I look at it, it's something that comes out of every ounce of my being if you love to do I don't care if it's plumbing or photography, whatever you love to do marketing should be in every core of your being. It shouldn't be on your to do list it's something that pops in your mind when you wake up and when you go to bed, how can you network with other businesses? How can you find like minded business is how can you find people that share the same customer that you d'oh a mom's? Groups speaking, is invaluable people that aren't speaking to women or men's groups are missing out I would join the mops group. Mothers of preschools isn't a christian moms through when I was pregnant with olivia ten years ago, I was a quiet wind at the table. I didn't really tell anyone who I waas was a photographer, just minding my own business and ones, and they asked me to speak I was like, oh no, I don't know what I'm going to speak about, I have nothing to speak now, I didn't tell you my adoptive mother is a pastor. She became an ordained minister when I was twelve, and I've had my fair share of having to speak your testimony and let me tell you, there's, nothing more nerve racking, fast forward ten years later, I've spoken to tons of moms groups because you can reach him out a completely different level you can reach down and when I was around in the mom's group and I said, everybody stand up, that has had a recent photo of yourself that's, not professional and of a hundred women in the room, three people that's a problem? Why is that a problem? Who is preserving your legacy? One hundred and the women in the room that is spending every day other life caring for those children and no one's taking your photos to your daughter could say this was my mother, and so when they stood up one by one and they said, well, I have twenty pounds to lose and I have fifty pounds to lose, and and I said, really, because when you look at the photo of andrew, did you say, gosh, I wish she would've lost ten pounds? No, he said, that's, my an earth, and so I feel like if you take the marketing like, how come nobody is calling me out of the equation and say, I've got something to give I am doing something with my life that I want to do with the core of my being I gotta find like minded people and then when you're in a room with those like minded people and women are crying it's not about my photography anymore and sitting there literally stepping outside going wait this isn't even about me anymore and so in all of your own lives whatever your profession is what is it about? You have to find out what is it about talk about motivating factors on ignite on friday but if they find out what it's about sales quickie books campuses groupings package jewelry books are my number one seller for pregnancy anyone? Why why looks my number one seller if somebody hitting me a book of me and my biological mother and what I look like a baby it would mean the world to me there's no other reason sell what you love and sell what has a reason to sell don't just sell for the dollar amounts and the first earthquake shadow when I was in california freaked me out so I was like I want frames in the nursery we saw a lot of campuses in nursery have a reason behind why you shoot and the rest will follow ee think ella's coming wow one of beautiful I cannot wait to hear you speak wedding night by the way let's give a round of applause talk about motivation from the beginning of your talk when you reminded us of why we are in this business to preserve legacies. That was incredible. What a jam packed ninety minutes again. Incredible. So thank you. Thank you very much, anna. Itjust again preserving that visual legacy for whether it's ourselves, our families or our clients, any any final questions, comments go. You show sixty images what's the reasoning for that, like compared to a lower it's a ranger. I have no set number. Okay, I could shoot five hundred show one hundred. My goal is to never show duplicate pose. Okay, ever right. Are you always against the backdrop? Do you go on? You know, I'm on location a lot. I shoot anywhere. Give me a camera, enlightened. I shoot. I always want to be a photographer that I felt like a cheat anywhere at any time. I do a lot of men in. So cal. So I do a lot of beach this time of year. I do beach field, studio, home there's really? Nowhere. I'd shoot and it's completely up to the client. When they book, they tell us where they want to be. Do you ever have clients that want to do more of a structured theme or an idea like a design team? No more like an artistic thing. Yeah, I have clients coming me all the time with ideas. They'll email me, they'll call me those pictures that will say, I want to do x y z and say, ok, let's, work it out. I come at a servant mentality. I'm here to serve you it's, not the other way around. I consider it a privilege every time I do issue. So if you have a vision and you have an idea and you're coming to me, that's a privilege, let me help you get there, I may fail or may succeed, and I don't always succeed. I've had a lot of failures, and I need three days to bring you through all that. I could tell you failures, but I will do everything in my power to give you one hundred percent of me.