Student Shoot Ideas
All right, so this last we're gonna have about fifteen, twenty minutes is discussing what we're doing for the rest of the day. Um, I am going to be doing retouching for my part, I'm doing regular retouching, kind of my skin retouching techniques and how to focus the eye of and later on the day I'm doing creative retouching. But this morning and also this afternoon, each of the audience members here are doing their very own fashion flares shoot. So what? I posed to them when I when they heard that they were coming to join me in seattle, I said each of you based on the specialty or the type of photography you do so, you know, bridal or boudoir think of a fashion slayer shoot. So take one of these elements that I'm talking about, whether it's location or styling or having a concept and put together a concept shoot that will execute together on day three of creative life. And so we're going to have three chutes going on in a time twice today on guy had them create mood boards, and I'm goin...
g to go around in a circle real quick have everybody tell me about their concept if you guys want to go to my block, it's blawg. That lyndsey other photography dot com not the post it's up right now, but the one before it is the mood boards. You can get an idea of the ideas that these individuals have, but I want you to tell me the challenges you faced, what your idea is and how you kind of got it's all come together and then I will be spending fifteen minutes with each of them as they shoot helped them conquer the problems that they're having and they can talk more about their concept. So, robin, my concept is a model that's climb with tears, teal color tears and as tears go facing toward mecca they become words challenge wass making the words I must have bought all types of like different things to try on my own neck cramped face paint, crayons, liquid latex and it just wasn't working and when I tried to do the letters vertically and looked awkward, cause we usually read left to right so what? We found it finally one of the technicians here, adam, thank you can he's a tattoo artist also, and he came up with sense als that spell the words and it's horizontal and it looks very beautiful, so it's easier to read now instead of up and down and so that's the big thing today is getting the words onto the neck work horizontally and making it look really cool okay? And we have tested some light for for everybody and so that just talking about that well when we get over there but getting the light to be dramatic but also to be able to show the detail that was an interesting challenge on one quick question to several quick the type of photography do you do in general I do beauty photography and I worked with a lot of hair stylists, makeup artists they like to try a different concepts and they'll bring in a model I've worked with models also and they'll bring in someone we have to figure out how to do what I did today figure out what looks best as faras makeup in the lighting to accentuate the hair or the makeup and where did you go with the crying idea? Um actually I was in new york and I was walking down the street one day and I saw a billboard and the model just had whatever whatever this is poster wass it just had all these they had all these light the light, tears or whatever I don't know if they were tears on what they were but it was like I want to do something like that so of course new york why not? You know, something like that when they fall okay, uh my famous uh light warrior and well my difficulties for getting to the issues here is your subject matter what is it what what type of photography do white are you photographing who is this person okay I'm going to take for the word sofa then sir andi it's going to be a warrior theme on dh well my main difficulties were basically that I had different ideas and like trying to focus all the take creativity into dismissed some ideas it's kind of hard for me because well I like them all so that was kind of ah hard process for me and then the hard part for me because I'm coming from mexico it was to get more dancer over here and stuff like that and and basically the next part was the costumes because for the idea it's a warrior and they had like something in my mind and well I fixed that with local designer from my city who was really happy to be able to help me and make this amazing piece that you're going to see which is hand may completely by her so so that was a really exciting thing and how did you find this designer uh through facebook actually like trying to connect with other people that like models and stuff like that in my city to start being more involved with people like that that's how I got acquainted with her and so did this person charge you for materials or for the this you are how did that work yeah I paid for the materials but she was happy and for taking her work out there so and I found that often if you find somebody who's passionate um it always depends a lot of times I can get people to do it for free but a lot of the times if I have somebody who's making me a prop or clothing they just want their materials cover it or if I have somebody coming in from out of town they just want their travel covered something like that so of course I always try to get things for free first but that is very common so and so what visuals what are you trying to achieve in your chute movement right isn't that the idea yeah I'm trying to achieve movement that flows with energy and stuff like the bice I want the picture that shows glowy kind of thing okay I knew my concept is a ballerina boudoir I love boudoir I think it's beautiful it has just this sexiness to it when it's done in a way that's not too provocative our risque and I love the art of dance and so dance has always inspired me so my inspiration started with dance and boudoir mix together and I just kind of tried to keep it contained and want brain crack going everywhere just floating around and have all these crazy ideas and so I wanted something simplistic and something beautiful and elegant and the first thing that pops into my mind was kind of that french kind of elegant ballerinas and just beautiful and I just want to capture the beauty that ballerinas have and dancers in general their lines and just the poison the perfection and honestly the biggest challenge was finding a ballerina because their main show started the same time our workshop did here in seattle and being in texas it's hard teo kind of communicate but a lot of ballerinas air young and it's hard to find one that was eighteen older and finally you know I did find my model and that made it so much easier and everything kind of flowed and I went to w p p I and there's this amazing, you know, photographer who spoke and she said, you know, if you never asked the answer's always no and so I found uh this awesome awesome amazing website vintage army ants dot com she's here and then to john being crime and she's here becky she's from seattle and she has tons of vintage pieces and everything spoke to me. It was everything that I wanted for my set and I sent her an email just asking her what her rental fee would be just for a day for my set I told her what it was four and she was like whatever you want you can have and she's been like totally helpful and it helped just bring everything together and I'm just really, really, really super excited yeah I can't wait for everyone to see the type of things that you brought in and they're incredible one quick question so do you photograph boudoir at home? I do I do boudoir at home I do a lot of portrait it's high school seniors I do some engagement weddings tend to scare me sometimes but I love second shooting weddings I mean I don't want to say that I would shoot your wedding but I d'oh boudoir as well ok, great. So hopefully uh learned some things here as faras putting some concept behind the ridge I think we really fun so all right then uh my concept for my shoot is a mother and daughter getting ready to go to a party it's like a nineteen fifties feel to it and the reason that I chose them getting ready is because I have three kids and high jackson resync healthy love you uh sorry I had to do that, but when I'm getting ready to go out with my daughter she sits next to me and she pretends to put on the makeup with me and it's just such a great like bonding moment and nothing says fashion to me more than hair and make up and all of that kind of stuff so it's a way to incorporate family photography, which is something that I d'oh along with boudoir and weddings along with fashion so kind of fused the two together and I'd say the biggest challenge for me was getting the vanity because I was in california and I just could not find what I was looking for online, so when I got here, I found an antique mall again didn't find what I was looking for and started to panic, and thankfully john, who works here, he pointed me in the right direction and I was able teo rent a vanity that would work and it just came together from there and I got my models from s and g andrew was a great help he really got me through the process of getting great model, and I have it's, a mother and daughter shoot, but this is not actually a mother and daughter sigh for see, my challenge is being getting the little girl to warm up to the mother, you know, and like to make it actually because he said and make it really look like a bond, but I work with children a lot, so I think that as long as I'm silly keep it like that, you know, it will be about the accomplish what we're going for today, okay, great, thank you let's hear what your concept, my concept, I'm shooting this senior well she's not really senior but it's the sort of senior portrait and it is ice queen so I wanted it to be really cold a lot of blues um simplicity but yet dramatic makeup um so I think my biggest challenge was finding the right pieces to fit because I am just shooting probably waste up or shoulders up. What I did for the top was I went and bought a five dollars to top at a local store and I went teo hobby crafts store and bought three bags of feathers and I started from the bottom up on my hot glue gun all the feathers so this whole tube top fun is feathers and it probably was a total of ten dollars and then I was looking for a head piece and this is not what I'm using but before I found the head piece my husband and I made this and this is from a christmas story in las vegas these are christmas lights we took apart drilled holes in it and made this this headpiece however I did reach out to someone on at sea bead mask dot com her name is andrea adams she has great leather headdresses so she did loan me the headdress I'm going to be using I might take a couple with this I don't know but it's just beautiful and so I think my biggest challenge was just finding all the pieces to fit together like I said, I'm not using a lot I wanted it to be clean simple but yet cry cold and so I saw my makeup getting her I mean I saw my mama get her make up and it was just I already felt it you know, with the lighting that we tried last night andi I really appreciate you suggesting the blue jiao because I was just going to shoot against a white background and so um I learned something yesterday because I didn't think you could shoot I tried it at home shooting gels against a white background I could never get it we'll talk later, okay? Listen that later why okay moron said let everybody know uh I just that was really interesting yesterday when you're talking about how you really surprised that she said yes uh I wass I mean and that is one thing that I'm just blown away by just learning that you can just ask people and I have learned one thing from you, lindsay, that I am worth a lot more than what I put myself out there to be and I'm going to market myself a lot harder and I do because I'm workers yeah, I'm just like my work is awesome so I'm going to ask and you know, like a set if but if not you can it's not that much this was maybe ten dollars is to make and and I'm not ps I'm really really not crafty I just have made friends who are um uh right like my friends over and we're like we're having a dazzling session uh okay, so samantha let's talk about your concept and where your idea came from and executing it on I found very I was very pleased because every single person here put a lot of effort in and so I really appreciate it. Thanks guys. Okay, so talk about your idea my idea is, um it's for a bridal session to do a lot of engagements and then weddings so this is because we haven't done a bridal session yet because they're usually found time to take the pictures before the wedding but this is nice um it's of a bride and she's like dreaming and so she's in a boat and is surrounded by perfume bottles, glass perfume bottles and I just wanted something very soft, something very whimsical and just very extremely dreamlike and just just not really looking and okay talk about all the pieces and how those that came together. And by the way um one of the eye mention this name over and over again but I was when you were describing it to me as what I did is back and forth with each one of the audience members when they told me their ideas sent me some of their photos I kicked back photos to them that I thought were appropriate so I'd say okay check out this dance photo or this boudoir photo or check out this image and for you I sent you a lot of a photographer's already whenever favorites tim walker because he'll have a lot of those things where it's big sets and props that don't necessarily make sense but they do because they're just beautiful so you built a boat yes well my mother and my husband most we built the boat ok I relied they helped me out a lot if I have something that I can myself can't do since I'm not I can't build things I'm crafty but I'm not a crafty so the biggest I'd say issue would be getting that here since you live in california so shipping costs were kind of a lot because there was some problems with that but whatever the boat wasn't that I wanted to make it was like like a hundred bucks or something and then all of the perfume bottles we bought or um was stuff we already had and then just keep them here and then we made actually made the wedding dress so that's actually something my mother's really good seamstress so I can like I know I can rely on her for stuff like that yeah that's really nice yeah looking at this that it'll be really fun and we do have um a fog machine um that we may or may not try we'll see how it goes on and I don't know sometimes I just like to add fog and people think it's cool we'll see but I think if it's your idea really well so if you had been shooting it in california um back home what would have been less expensive it a little easier to manage, right? Yeah so some of these things a lot of the challenges they're talking about is well are the fact that they just don't live here? Um so you have teo get things here and find people here so what I encourage you guys out there and the internet to do is you build up your connections within your community maybe you find that antique store or that vintage rental place or maybe it's knowing that you have those crafty individuals that can help you out things like that you kind of build up your community it makes it much easier same thing with hair makeup, wardrobe locations, props once you connect with these people it stops being so much of an effort every time we shoot um I would like to take one or two questions if there are any otherwise we'll break and we will get shooting so yeah, we're gonna we're gonna take about eight more minutes of questions and I'm sure awesome I was like trying to get us some time, okay all right, I have a question from casey who asked lindsay do yourself ever jump in front of the camera as a way to help connect with your models and give you more of an idea of how to connect with your clients as far as like on the shoot getting in front of the camera I'm I'm out there posing I'm always posing was that try this try that because even though it doesn't look good on me I know what poses will look good on that individual like you know if there's a tall, skinny crazy model that can do all these poses I might do it looks terrible but she'll do it right so I usually do it often for example if there's a girl that's maybe uncomfortable posing with the guy I'll get right up there you know saying do you mind if I pose? Do you mind if I touch you? I always ask after that first initial asking then it's just kind of okay? You said yes s o I like poison and snuggle and show her and see how I'm nuzzling my head and she's like oh she's even know him and he can she can do this so I could do it as well most of time it's posing I don't usually get in front in front of the camera uh except for I know when I have assistants on set or testing light sometimes just for funny I'll jump in front make some funny faces put it up there it's tethered the client season they kind of laugh but that's just in the studio and it's it's once in a while turns on the client folks if you goto the lindsay adler photography facebook page there are photos of you doing exactly that yeah yeah yeah that's a christian to be trying people and I'm like okay what's looking love yeah so I mean you just directing and telling people what I'd be feeling on then sometimes too I think it was I don't know if it was yesterday when something I was diving for somebody I couldn't quite explain what the pot's waas so I did it so I could feel it and it's okay so put your weight on your back foot and pop out your right hip because I couldn't quite articulate until I did it and felt it and said ok that's what you need to do so that's another reason it makes it easier for me to direct so this is an interesting question from alan birch as someone who uses social media as a marketing tool how do you deal with online criticism both constructive and un constructive um okay so there are definitely situations where you get online criticism constructive and constructive um if somebody is just being a jerk it's stupid I would erase it but if it's somebody who's actually giving a point of view and having constructive criticism uh for example is so I don't like this or that and say, you know that they're you know what that is another way you could shoot it um why don't you shouldn't show me but I try to put it in like a nice where something like that, you know, putting in a like oh, you know what? That's uh that doesn't fit my style but that is definitely one solution you could have I honestly don't in my community and totally jinxing myself getting people saying like you know that that sucks that doesn't work I don't usually get anybody negative like that if somebody saying something stupid like that sucks then yeah, I would delete it because they're not trying to be constructive or given opinion or add to the conversation but if they're saying something that's more somewhat educated or trying to further a conversation that I do leave it and I just try to respond in a friendly manner cool all right s baker from victoria, canada would like to ask they say I'm wondering if you could talk about copyright considerations with using props if the images is destined for commercial use does she do you have to get releases from the etc artist for example um so for most of my chutes that I'm doing for the kind of this fashion flare stuff it's not commercial use so you don't need tohave the releases its just as soon as you have maybe a logo on this gets published someplace that's where it becomes questionable so for example and he's having much creative I've if you see somebody with a water bottle has no label that's why the considering that's what? We have no labels it's that copyright consideration I don't need releases for these things unless they have specific logos or trademarks for props that I use you it's it's fine if you are selling from etc and you don't need to credit them or anything so it's the same thing like if I use a shirt from hmm that I bought and it goes up on an ad on you know in times square as long as it doesn't say hmm or have a logo I can use it I done that frequently otherwise you know any of the ads that I did well you have to get permission for every piece of clothing and jewelry and no so only if it has logo's or is somehow related to a trademark or brand that's clearly identifiable and then a little follow up on that is when you work deals with vendors do you give them photos for their products or what you give them is a digital negative or prince hi rose laura's most of the time what I'll do in exchange for use of whatever like especially the model they get high rez files because they need to build a printed out two nine by twelve or twins in the size their portfolio er and it doesn't have my watermark because they don't want oh you can't look at the model portfolio that all you see is screaming watermark you know, this is an advertisement for a photographer that's just how it works so it's pretty similar if somebody on etsy typically what I'll dio is I will give them a lower resolution file and then if they ask for a higher resolution file I'll give it to them usually we just have a verbal agreement saying and I will write out in an email and I'll say here the things this can be used for do you agree with that? Is that acceptable? That doesn't mean someone can't rip me off and sell my photos and put it on for commercial, but if I make it too difficult to put up too many barriers to let people lend me stuff and work with me, then I'm just kind of crushing all these opportunities and I've had very few problems in my experience but for me it's worth the risk to actually be able to make it easy to put these shoots together about, um your watermark I see that your copyright watermark it's very small uh and easily crop out of dylan I guess you could say yes for lack of a better word um why do you choose to make it small instead of maybe putting it over the image where, you know it would more protected if they were sending out proofs of people who haven't paid and things like that then, which I seldom do but there's one to one twice like where people want to compare things side by side and see, you know, whatever I put proof across that or my name, but for how I work it online if somebody wants to steal your image, they're going to steal your image um and for me, I want my copyright on there, so it just it's a hey hello, you know this is copyrighted or, um if it's goes around if it gets pinned on pinterest, I wanted to have my name on it just in case somebody copied and pasted it and didn't actually what they're supposed to do on pinterest for you pin it to a site that will link back to me so I want on there so it actually would have my name um but the reason I make it so small is I want the images too be clean and b how intended them on? And since I have to clean graphic style when I have a big copyright it, I feel like it really just distracts from my images so that's a personal choice if somebody wanted so, I could still most people's images and cop in photo shop it out. If I know what I'm doing to someone's determined to take one of my images, they will, but also all the online images. Air sized, eight hundred pixels on alongside seventy two dp I. So, yes, they could put it online and steal it. But they can't actually do much with it in the end. So I think that putting the images out there is also one of those risk things you know someone could steal if they really wanted to and use it for something. But it's worth the risk to get my name, my brand out there online.