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Lesson 108 of 140

Make Fear Your Friend


The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Lesson 108 of 140

Make Fear Your Friend


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Make Fear Your Friend

(synth music) Talk to me about how you view fear because there's so much fear in the photo industry. People are afraid to make mistakes. They're afraid to get called out. They're afraid to do shitty work. They're afraid to be called out on something, and a lot of that keeps creative people in a little shell. So. Fear is a real driver, and it has been for me as well in the past, whether it was athletics, or writing, or academia, or whatever it might have been. And I realized that it's a driver based on risk, and that's when people define risk, or should define risk, as the possibility of an irreversible negative outcome. And what I mean by that is, just like most people fail to achieve their goals because they're poorly defined, most people are prevented from doing things based on fear because it's poorly defined. There's a couple things we all probably fear. Being judged unfairly. Not being able to provide for our loved ones and our family. Death and losing people that we love. I...

think those are a lot of things, but the fear ourselves are often about the fear of being able to be acknowledged, and/or the fear of failing, and people looking at you as a failure. And so our brain wants a story, and our brain likes a story that pitches bad guys, good guys, safe and dangerous. And so the stories we make up normally are our worst fears, and turn the people that are in our stories into enemies. It's the same as somebody else saying, "I'm not good enough." It's the same as somebody else saying, "no one's gonna like what I have to do." It's just a bullshit nonsense lie you tell yourself that's not healthy for you or the work. Right? You have no idea what's gonna happen tomorrow. No idea. You have no idea that this thing you're writing, or doing or that you think is the best thing ever, you have no idea if anyone else is gonna like it. You operate, I'd like to say uncertainty is a very confident place to be. Really, the more you can sort of let go. Though you have no idea about what's gonna happen in the future, you have no idea about what other people are gonna connect with it or not, and just do it, and try to make it your best. Put all your heart and love and care into it, and then be unattached. You wanna be accepted, and you have to always second guess yourself. I second guess myself everyday, right? And it's the fear of saying, there's no point in my life that I didn't have fear, and I call it a healthy paranoia in business. Fool was doing well. Okay well, a hot clothing line last five years, Daymond, did you get bit by the apple? Did you bite the apple once or get hit by lightning? No, I gotta share this idea of who I am with the world. I wanna empower other entrepreneurs, but I'm dyslexic. I'm gonna write a book? Are you kidding me? People are gonna laugh at me, right? Fear of am I leaving my daughters inheritancy or a legacy? How will they perceive me? Fear of making my daughters public people, where now they have pressure on them, and I wanna hide them from everybody, or fear of anything else, you know? The President of the United States, President Obama, made me a Presidential Ambassador for global entrepreneurship. I can never let him down. It's always gonna be some level of fear, and that fear is good if it's healthy. I've just never done anything that's turned out to be valuable that wasn't just scared shitless to do it. Everything I've ever done that's ever really made a contribution, I have felt alone in doing it, and afraid, but alive. After the first time that you opt to brave the wilderness, you pull away from what a group of people thinks, maybe it's your creative community, it's your critics, but the first time you pull away, and find power in standing on your own, I think your heart is marked by the wild. I think you belong in and to the wilderness in a different way because every time after that, when you choose fitting in over belonging to yourself, it's painful, and so to me, the whole idea is not just navigating the wilderness, which I think every poet, and theologian, and writer over time has used the wilderness as kind of this lone journey thing. It's not just about navigating the wilderness, it's about becoming the wilderness. It's about becoming, I am going to be on my own a lot, and it's going to be okay because there is beauty and strength in that, and it's not that I won't ever find great joy in being a part of something, but I will always belong to and believe in myself first. There are so many things that you do in business and in life that are really driven by deep insecurity and the need to fill ego, verses the things that actually matter to you. I also think you're one decision away from a totally different life because when you're the kind of person that's sleeping in everyday and waking up and feeling like a loser, and you make one decision that all you're gonna do is actually just get up, no matter how painful it is, what happens is that one decision make you see yourself differently because of the action you're taking. So what I tend to do, if I find myself paralyzed or indecisive, is I'll write down all the worst-case scenarios. Really get hi-def in the absolute specific worst case scenarios, then the second column is what I could do to prevent, anything I could do to prevent those specific items, and then if they happen, what I could do to reverse those or minimize the damage from each of those outcomes. And you find once you do that, that the worst case scenarios are very seldom as bad as you'd envisioned. It's just the nebulous, dark-- When you haven't defined anything. Fantasm of a bad outcome that prevents you from taking action. What you actually realize, oh, worst case scenario: I go back to my last job. Worst case scenario: I take a part time job doing this. Worst case scenario: I have to suck it up for a month or two. Do twice as much work with that one client I don't like, and then this. Then it really doesn't seem as scary, and you can actually move ahead with things. The moment you catch yourself hesitating, or doubting, or starting to worry, or about to chicken out, or shrink, or shut-up, or whatever it is that you're about to do, that is shrinking your power, you just go, five, four, three, two, one. You count backwards, five, four, three, two, one. By counting backwards, the cheat code that you're doing in your mind is you are interrupting what are called habit loops that get encoded in the central part of your brain, and you are starting up the prefrontal cortex. It's a little trick that causes focus. I'd like to say that uncertainty is a very confident place to be. Really the more you can let go of, though you have no idea about what's gonna happen in the future. You have no idea about whether people are gonna connect with it or not, and just do it, and try to make it your best, and put all your heart, and love, and care into it. And then be unattached. Stop walking through the world looking for confirmation that you don't belong 'cause you will always find it. Stop walking through the world looking for evidence that you're not enough because you will always find it. Your self worth and your belonging is not something that we negotiate externally. It's something we carry in our wild hearts, and if we spend our lives looking everywhere we go for evidence that I don't really belong in this meeting, I'm not really an artist, I just do this on the side, and this is my side hustle, but it's not really my job. Or we keep comparing ourselves, you will find exactly what you're looking for. My inspiration is like, embrace your fears, accept them, and do it anyway. (pensive music)

Class Description

Each week here on The Chase Jarvis Live Show, CreativeLive Founder + CEO Chase Jarvis sits down with the world’s top creative entrepreneurs and thought leaders and unpacks actionable, valuable insights to help you live your dreams in career, hobby, and in life..

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First aired in 2010, the show has featured guests including:

Richard BransonArianna HuffingtonMark Cuban
Jared LetoMacklemoreAdrian Grenier
Tim FerrissGary VaynerchukSir Mix-A-Lot
Cory BookerBrené BrowniJustine
Daymond JohnLewis HowesMarie Forleo
LeVar BurtonGabrielle BernsteinRyan Holiday
Amanda CrewJames Mercer (The Shins)James Altucher
Ramit SethiDebbie MillmanKevin Rose
Marc EckoTina Roth EisenbergSophia Amoruso
Chris GuillebeauW. Kamau BellStefan Sagmeister
Neil StraussYves BeharVanessa Van Edwards
Caterina FakeRoman MarsKevin Kelly
Brian SolisScott HarrisonPiera Gelardi
Steven KotlerLeila JanahKelly Starrett
Elle LunaAdam BraunJoe McNally
Brandon StantonGretchen RubinAustin Kleon
Scott Dadich


  1. Old School Photography + Other Musings with Kai Wong
  2. Escalate and Evolve: A Blueprint for Career and Life with Ben Uyeda
  3. The Stories That Hold Us Back with Jon Acuff
  4. Poetry, Vulnerability and Finding Your Voice with Jericho Brown
  5. What Does it Take to be Backable with Suneel Gupta
  6. Unlocking Creativity, Courage and Success with Rebecca Minkoff
  7. How To Heal From Your Past with Dr. Nicole LePera
  8. That Will Never Work with Marc Randolph
  9. The Real Cost of Your Dream Life with Rachel Rodgers
  10. Your Network is Your Insurance Policy with Jordan Harbinger
  11. Dream First, Details Later with Ellen Bennett
  12. We're Never Going Back with Harley Finkelstein
  13. How to Shatter Limitations and Achieve Your Dreams with Steven Kotler
  14. The Creative Art of Attention with Julia Cameron
  15. The Path Back to True Self with Martha Beck
  16. Upgrade Your Brain and Learn Anything Quickly with Jim Kwik
  17. The Urgent Need for Stoicism with Ryan Holiday
  18. Delicious Food Doesn't Have to be Complicated with Julia Turshen
  19. Netflix and the Culture of Reinvention with Erin Meyer
  20. Stop Living On Autopilot with Antonio Neves
  21. How to Tackle Fear and Live Boldly with Luvvie Ajayi Jones
  22. Go from Underestimated to Unstoppable with Jamie Kern Lima
  23. Hard Work + The Evolution of Self with Priyanka Chopra Jonas
  24. The Power of Idealism with Samantha Power
  25. Pushing the Limits with Extreme Explorer Mike Horn
  26. Fast This Way with Dave Asprey
  27. Uncomfortable Conversations with Emmanuel Acho
  28. Why Conversation Matters with Rich Roll
  29. Elevating Humanity Through Business with John Mackey
  30. When Preparation Meets Opportunity with Paul Ninson
  31. The Art of Practice with Christoph Niemann
  32. Matthew McConaughey: Embracing Resistance & Catching Greenlights
  33. Starve the Ego, Feed the Soul with Justin Boreta
  34. Tiny Changes, Remarkable Results with James Clear
  35. Badass Habits and Making Them Stick with Jen Sincero
  36. Break Free from Self-Limiting Beliefs with Dr. Benjamin Hardy
  37. Imposter Syndrome, Getting Unstuck and The Practice with Seth Godin
  38. The Art of Curiosity and Lifelong Wisdom with Chip Conley
  39. The Lost Art of Breath with James Nestor
  40. The Art of Reinvention with Sophia Amoruso
  41. Harness Kindness as Your Hidden Super Power with Adrienne Bankert
  42. Heal the Soul, Restore the Calm with Stephan Moccio
  43. Finding Resilience & Possibility with Guy Raz
  44. Truth, Fear, and How to do Better with Luvvie Ajayi Jones
  45. The Future is Faster Than You Think with Peter Diamandis
  46. Music, Writing, and Time For Change with Nabil Ayers
  47. Freedom to Express Who We Are with Shantell Martin
  48. So You Want to Talk about Race with Ijeoma Oluo
  49. Photographing History with Pete Souza
  50. Maybe You Should Talk to Someone with Lori Gottlieb
  51. Never Settle with Mario Armstrong
  52. The Science of Making Work Not Suck with Adam Grant
  53. Street Photography + Capturing Truth with Steve John Irby
  54. Life, Writing, and Real Talk with Roxane Gay
  55. Steve Aoki: Creativity, Community and No Days Off
  56. The Power of Passion and Perseverance with Angela Duckworth
  57. Know What Drives You with Michael Gervais
  58. The Code of the Extraordinary Mind with Vishen Lakhiani
  59. Risk, Fear, and the Art of Chill with Jimmy Chin
  60. Personal Growth and Understanding with Citizen Cope
  61. Living Life on Purpose with Jay Shetty
  62. Get Out of Your Own Way with Dave Hollis
  63. Hope in A Sea of Endless Calamity with Mark Manson
  64. How to Find Yourself with Glennon Doyle
  65. Make It Til You Make It with Owen Smith
  66. Surf, Survival, and Life on the Road with Ben Moon
  67. Create the Change You Seek with Jonah Berger
  68. Workplace Revolution with Amy Nelson
  69. Rethink Impossible with Colin O'Brady
  70. Good Enough is Never Good Enough with Corey Rich
  71. Say Yes To What You Want with Chris Burkard
  72. Finding Stillness In A Fast Paced World with Ryan Holiday
  73. Everything is Figureoutable with Marie Forleo
  74. The Art of Being Yourself with Elizabeth Gilbert
  75. Creativity, Comedy, and Never Settling with Nate Bargatze
  76. Personal + Career Reinvention with Jasmine Star
  77. Stay Creative, Focused and True to Yourself with Austin Kleon
  78. Ramit Sethi 'I Will Teach You To Be Rich' book launch with Chase Jarvis
  79. You Don't Need to Be Rich to Live Rich with David Bach
  80. Harnessing Your Human Nature for Success with Robert Greene
  81. Addiction, Reinvention, and Finding Ultra with Endurance Athlete Rich Roll
  82. Disruption, Reinvention, and Reimagining Silicon Valley with Arlan Hamilton
  83. The Intersection of Art and Service with Rainn Wilson
  84. Your Mind Can Transform Your Life with Tom Bilyeu
  85. Do Something Different with Jason Mesnick
  86. Less Phone, More Human with Dan Schawbel
  87. Startup to $15 Billion: Finding Your Life's Work with Shopify's Harley Finkelstein
  88. It Doesn't Have to be Crazy at Work with Jason Fried
  89. Love, Service, and Living Your Truth with Danielle LaPorte
  90. How to Do Work That Matters for People Who Care with Seth Godin
  91. Happiness Through Gratitude with AJ Jacobs
  92. You Are Your Habits with Julien Smith
  93. Maximizing Creativity + Navigating the Messy Middle with Scott Belsky
  94. The Most Important Conversation About Life… Death with Michael Hebb
  95. Redemption and a Thirst for Change with Scott Harrison
  96. Imagination and The Power of Change with Beth Comstock
  97. Success, Community, and his cameo in Parks & Recreation with NBA All Star Detlef Schrempf
  98. 1,000 Paths to Success with Jack Conte
  99. Unconventional Ways to Win with Rand Fishkin
  100. How to Sell Without Selling Out with Ryan Carson
  101. Be the Artist You Want to Work With with Nigel Barker
  102. Your Story Is Your Power with Elle Luna
  103. Celebrating Your Weirdness with Thomas Middleditch
  104. Persevering Through Failure with Melissa Arnot Reid
  105. Go Against the Grain with David Heinemeier Hansson
  106. Stamina, Tenacity and Craft with Eugene Mirman
  107. Create Work That Lasts with Todd Henry
  108. Make Fear Your Friend
  109. Tame Your Distracted Mind with Adam Gazzaley
  110. Why Grit, Persistence, and Hard Work Matter with Daymond John
  111. How to Launch Your Next Project with Product Hunts with Ryan Hoover
  112. Lessons in Business and Life with Richard Branson
  113. Embracing Your Messy Beautiful Life with Glennon Doyle
  114. How to Create Work That Lasts with Ryan Holiday
  115. 5 Seconds to Change Your Life with Mel Robbins
  116. Break Through Anxiety and Stress Through Play with Charlie Hoehn
  117. The Quest For True Belonging with Brene Brown
  118. Real Artists Don't Starve with Jeff Goins
  119. Habits for Ultra-Productivity with Jessica Hische
  120. Using Constraints to Fuel Your Best Work Ever with Scott Belsky
  121. The Intersection of Art and Business with AirBnB's Joe Gebbia
  122. Build a World-Changing Business with Reid Hoffman
  123. How Design Drives The World's Best Companies with Robert Brunner
  124. Why Creativity Is The Key To Leadership with Sen. Cory Booker
  125. How To Change The Lives Of Millions with Scott Harrison
  126. How To Build A Media Juggernaut with Piera Gelardi
  127. Transform Your Consciousness with Jason Silva
  128. The Formula For Peak Performance with Steven Kotler
  129. How What You Buy Can Change The World with Leila Janah
  130. Overcoming Fear & Self-Doubt with W. Kamau Bell
  131. The Unfiltered Truth About Entrepreneurship with Adam Braun
  132. Build + Sustain A Career Doing What You Love with James Mercer of The Shins
  133. How Design Can Supercharge Your Business with Yves Béhar
  134. Conquer Fear & Self-Doubt with Amanda Crew
  135. Become A Master Communicator with Vanessa Van Edwards
  136. How iJustine Built Her Digital Empire with iJustine
  137. How To Be A World-Class Creative Pro with Joe McNally
  138. How To Stop Waiting And Start Doing with Roman Mars
  139. Gut, Head + Heart Alignment with Scott Dadich
  140. If not now, when? with Debbie Millman


Dream Focus Studio

By far the best classes on Creative Live!! Thanks Chase Jarvis for bringing so much greatness to the table for discussion! Just LOVE it!


Excellent interview with thoughtful questions. Thanks!!

Carla Thauberger

This was amazing. Will definitely be viewing again and again. Thank you both for this!