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10:00 am - Making a Team

Lesson 4 from: Working with Models

Matthew Jordan Smith, Yoanna House

10:00 am - Making a Team

Lesson 4 from: Working with Models

Matthew Jordan Smith, Yoanna House

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4. 10:00 am - Making a Team


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Day 1


9:00 am - Introduction


9:15 am - The Model Agent


9:45 am - The Model Go-See


10:00 am - Making a Team


10:45 am - Your First Model Test


11:15 am - Testing Q&A


11:30 am - The Value of Testing


1:00 pm - Expectations of Models and Photographers


1:15 pm - Test Packages


1:30 pm - Casting


1:45 pm - Booking Terms


2:00 pm - Photographer as Team Director


2:45 pm - Conditions on a Shoot


3:00 pm - Student Casting Session: First Student


3:15 pm - Student Casting Session: Second Student


Day 2


9:00 am - Shoot: Rooftop Catalog


9:15 am - Student Shoot: Dave, Rooftop Catalog


9:45 am - Student Shoot: Agnes, Rooftop Catalog


10:30 am - Connecting with Models


10:45 am - Morning Q&A


11:00 am - Reviewing Rooftop Images


11:30 am - Challenges


11:45 am - Assisting


1:00 pm -Shoot: Jewelry with Yoanna


1:30 pm - Student Shoot: Kumi, Jewelry Shoot


2:00 pm - Student Shoot: Todd, Jewelry Shoot


2:30 pm - Shoot: Matthew Working with New Models


3:00 pm - Personal Projects


3:15 pm - Standing Out


Day 3


9:00 am - Working with Multiple Models


10:30 am - Student Shoot: First Two Students, Benetton Ad


11:15 am - Student Shoot: Next Two Students, Benetton Ad


11:45 am - Benetton Shoot Q&A


1:00 pm - Shoot: Karaoke


1:15 pm - Student Shoot: First Two Students, Karaoke


1:45 pm - Student Shoot: Second Two Students, Karaoke


2:00 pm - Discussion of the Shoot and Matthew Shooting


2:15 pm - Student Shoot: Second Round of Karaoke


3:15 pm - Your Life Inspires Your Work


Lesson Info

10:00 am - Making a Team

So so I'm making the team that team to help you now get to an agency and start testing what's the team makeup makeup makeup you must know makeup we'll be received not know how to do it yourself but understand what it is okay I would see a show in san francisco like two weeks ago uh what therefore when my personal projects do is shoot and while I was there there was exhibit that was dying to see that it was in new york the exhibit was in new york like a couple months ago now my friends in new york would see this show so announce in san francisco and the show is cindy sherman if you don't know cindy sherman is look right now and find out who cindy sherman is the second highest prize highest paid image in the world was so of a cindy sherman image I think it's like four point two million dollars I can't move the exact amount but that was last year cindy sherman so what is to be sure you shoot for the last four decades she's been shooting self portrait ce she photographs herself someone see...

her show and cindy is incredible cindy sherman does his self porters that are so elaborate it's just insane but she did not feel like four decades now where she takes pictures of herself and should comes these different characters if you watch this the usual maybe fortunate characters is a photographer well, cindy sherman does that beyond she's on steroids with wishy she does her own make up her own styling and she becomes a different person if you can see the cindy sherman show or go online, look at her work, take a look she knows makeup and styling and she has research about all this stuff. She had this great career doing self portrait pse and she's making million's being pictures of herself. Cindy sure, you are an amazing actor, by the way, get up on your career in hollywood that was hardly yesterday. I goes bad so back to make it back to make it you need to know make up and make it styles washing fashion beauty stop talking and go through a magazine today or download it when your ipad and look at beyond the picture look that make it trends style are the eyebrows bushy now on a thin are they being plucked away or they bleached all that stuff? Look at it and see it for what it is. Hair should know hair you had a great shot and the girls has messed up it's like, oh, well, the agency will look at the hair it's like, why do you think the girl's here? Why not make it like that you have a great shot technically, where the pictures technically perfect photographically, but the hair is messed up and make us messed up like this a horrible picture your photo firms like that's a great picture, but the bookers will be it's a horrible picture because you could take care of the hair and makeup. Well, you know you had a horrible hair person way horrible make a person status. Now, once a test, despite the harsh person get is the stylus because they had to pull close. So when you're doing a test, you probably won't have a stylist, but you should have some simple flows like simple tops. Prop close, call them. You have proper clothes for your testing. When you started to test, I could be like a t shirt or something from no h v, something expensive, they confront every girl all the time. We're doing jobs, though you have a stylist, you have this big team. The most important part of your team for testing in the beginning of your career is funny person do makeup and hair making bodice you need to know how did you make up? How did you hear and how they work together? They're part of your team there, part of your team, the hair stylists, makeup artists, hairstyles, they a part of your team? And they make you look good some parroted that you find the best of the best and have them work with you I want the best make a point maybe jump I can get the best hair when every job again it makes me look better as a photographer in the fashion world was looking not just your photography but your team and a team that you choose casting a teen is almost like casting a model you have a go see for the models to cast models you got put your team together the same way so you're starting out you're trying to find that right mix right type of makeup can they can they blend in? You guys work together long term. Can you go away on a trip for two weeks because of to an island with this, making boris and get along with everybody? He could always creative people together in one room and a body blend together and work together. That's very important. You might find a great nicobar assumes a diva, the great hands that's with a diva. They all clash. Make sure the mixes right now looking at you because you picked this person, you think that person and they're all fighting now clear people are strong personalities. But you as a photographer you are the director is up to you it's up to you it takes more than just being a photographer takes more than just taking the picture knowing what lends you have yes I want to have the best camera businesses what I'm shooting but one just the pictures yes we're all concerned about having our great camera lens but then what what do you do with that great camera that great linds what do you do with it is beyond just taking a great picture this is your tool how do you paint with your brush? This is a brush how do you paint with your brush and we all paid differently here's my testing team make up my favorite models here stateless my team how did I find them? I had to cast them so I didn't find this making parts on the left right away I feel like by ten different makeup artist testing and like, oh no oh no oh no oh this one's perfect. So for me this is my personal opinion I like making pars who also paint they have a different eye they can see differently and have a different hand and when I'm testing I want the best people on my tests that could use them also on my jobs so I had a second ago so it wouldn't be these people after we're digging a little less where I find hair make it the stylus in the big cities like new york, chicago l a they're making agencies like there are modeling agencies saying, go online, use google making our agencies and you'll find mind agencies or if you don't know them, ask your best friend now the booker ask her about my hair makeup agencies and who they like his makeup artists, because we'll know that they'll know about hair and makeup and who's good in that city in the town, they will know that already. So I asked about that, and they would like that you ask about that, because now you're speaking their language, they look at your pictures and say, go see a booker and they're looking at pictures they hate your hair and makeup. You can now ask that when you have hair people and they let you like working with and find your team that way, if you're in a town where they don't have agencies, you know your local mall and go to your mac store and finds very creative people use at the mac store and find a great makeup artist there. They're dying to have a door makeup, you know, in pictures, start building a team that will go to a make up counter and start looking at just watching as they do make up and then approached them high and my name is matthew photographer and I love that you get a deal on that girl in the face that it will be just now can we work together if you want to do the shoot together photographers my work you know I'm wondering how much how much should you expect to pay these people price range isn't opinion is a question how much should you pay your hair makeup stylist model as you test you don't think anybody anything you are giving them pictures so this a creative collaboration he buys coming together to create and mold everyone's coming together to create and mode and make this stuff work why I don't work for free for you because you're the director you photographer as you start showing better pictures when you get high for jobs you are hiring them you're making their living because every job you do you use that team once you build your team you are loyal to that team once you build your team you finally find your favorite makeup hair models all that but you have your team together they're my family I met both his hair make orestes testing what jobs are use them they're my family and we've created work together and my work is in their books and their work is in my books so when they're going for jobs showing their work is make pars really who shot who shot that I've gotten jobs because my coaches have been in sandals put forward and vice versa I should celebrities like oh who does your work does you make up oh you know for angela bassett and like thank you that's that's so angela bassett higher samuel that's how it works we're all one family a ton to make bolus westen even celebrities for work and they took the clients that give me work because they saw a piece of work and that makes bars the hairstyles portfolio one family working together so when I'm idea I want to shoot, I call them even for this this test so you guys may have heard the story overnight if you heard me speak before about butterfly story I was inspired by going to another exhibit I go shows all the time and you guys to go see every show you can for inspiration so I want to see this exhibit it has inspired by seeing these butterflies in this exhibit I call my team I had an idea for a story and they got excited and we did the story that was a test that led to a lot of great stuff I'm always involved with my hair makeup so I have in my arsenal of hair and makeup people I thought I'd like five great hair people five amy clark's because they're getting booked all the time so I get a job tomorrow I'm gonna call try to book my favorite ones probably somebody else already so I gotta make sure I have an arsenal of great hair and makeup so when I had a job I can get them at the same time so all of juggling trying to make our work schedules worked together and that's kind of hard sometimes we're all working once you're all at a certain level you're all working all the time and you want to have anybody working on time there's a question with a question so do you have a couple of makeup but this for backup? I do I do I'll have I'll have stan you'il I'll have you know I have all these different people who are great make parts on their own and also some people are better at one thing than the other so I hired the mix forces great doing that one thing is something that's very detailed how you san you'll see things very salt how used another person he's depends on running for that time for that job was good to have an arsenal of make bars are still hair makeup stylist the whole nine yards you need people you need the best you need you get that job finally there's the question from the internet right? I'll take some right now you will are you sure? All right, so a question from creed of a creative e images is do you reach who's in dallas? You reach out to the makeup agencies in the same way that you would connect the modeling agencies question do you reject the hair and makeup people the same way you do with the model agencies? Not as much it's no easier um with the making agencies it's not as intense is going to see the model bookers says it's easier if you have an easier time so you can call you can make an appointment go see them but you have an easier time the mollen bookers are much stricter they're harder on you um we'll make it so easy you have an easier time getting hairy makeup versus the model agent but do make the appointments to go see them get to know them because they are part of your team and they will be calling you all the time to do great work they will love you have been calling you all the time I want to give you a different hair people didn't make people to build their books good question so steve eighty six had asked where's the best place to find makeup artists of hairstyles and joe holley said model mayhem is mostly models is their site specifically for hairstyles and make a part of you okay so model mayhem does have uh makeup artists, hairstyles and and stylists there and you can be fined five bitter hair and makeup you can models on those sites but on the professional level where you find great makeup bars hair stylists, producers lebouc dot com led be okay dot com it's a great sight for everything production in the industry if I could hire to do a job and portugal and I want to find uh producer I'll get a little dot com a new job in paris I want to find uh the model agencies, hair and makeup stylists I was in the book dot com ele e be okay dot com very cool. Thank you inside scoop you welcome welcome to use it all the time in terms of other like sources out there as well. But I like the book finding the team will continue that how do you find that team? Are you putting together so high on your team? We talked about this before your local makeup counter. If you're in a small area where they don't have agencies, go to your local mall and go to, um, fashion fair council of the making of the mac counter find a different counter and watch them for a moment and what they're doing and learn about makeup give your team images so you're working for free you all come together to collaborate and make images you're going to give them images right away you're giving him just to the hair person make a person, uh, model you're giving them the work. So this is why we're all working together to build each of those portfolios or websites? Well, I've had your building, the work together, and you're forming a bond with the team. So for this collaboration, you're giving them images. Preacher team like your best friend. You do a shoot that you finally have the model. Now you finally had his connection with the agency you found. Have good hair makeup coming together. You're testing, treat them well, feed them, make sure you have water for them, make them feel comfortable because they're giving you their talents, that they make them feel comfortable. They're bringing all of their talent, bringing all their tools. Yes, the tar balls. You have all your gear, cameras, your life, your lens is all your stuff. So they you all coming together with all your stuff. All of their hair parks are unique products. All your clothing, all your lenses together to make magic respect what they do, and they was like what you do as well. But this is a creative effort together. Each achieves more.

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Ratings and Reviews

a Creativelive Student

This was more of a collaborative course with Matthew Jordan Smith and Yoanna House, and it is brilliant. I just finished watching this for a few hours straight. I own several Creative Live courses and this is definitely in my Top 3. Matthew's teaching style is so kind but to the point and informative. That's the kind of photographer I aim to be. He puts forth his knowledge here in a way that totally encouraged everyone involved. I loved Yoanna as well. She was very direct but friendly as well. I loved watching her direct the budding models and her experience showed quite well. This part is for John, the guy who commented on June 2017. I completely disagree with you that there were too many questions and that other people were talking much more than Matthew, and that that was a negative. Matthew's whole point was not just to get straight to shooting but to talk a bit about interacting with people in general. This wasn't just about technical stuff; this was about forming that connection between photographer and model/subject. This was as much psychology as it was about actual shooting, and I absolutely loved that. So I 100% strongly disagree with you as this is one of Creative Live's BEST courses that I've seen thus far. Thanks a ton, Matthew and Yoanna, and thanks so much again, Creative Live (I'm a huge fan of you guys!).

a Creativelive Student

So amazing !! Bought this and Lara jade Fashion Workshop and the 2 compliment each other really well. If you're interested in fashion photography these 2 courses are so inspiring. I Love the Matthews passion for the creative process, its inspiring and informative.

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