Choosing Your First DSLR Camera
So now let's finally start making a choice, all right? We've learned about all the things that we need to do, we should be asking ourselves the right question. And now, it's time to start figuring out how do we make a choice in this? I think one of the first things you need to d'oh and this is kind of hard is choosing the sensor size, the small, medium and large option, okay? And this is going to be based on the image quality needs that you have. So what are you going to be doing with the photo? How bigger you're gonna be making it? Are you trying to impress clients with it? Is this something you're professionally pursuing what's the size of the system that you're getting into? Is this something that has one hundred lenses or five lenses available to it? Because I think kind of choosing the lens system is like choosing the sensor system what's what's the city that you're moving to essentially and of course, your budget is always going to play a part of this route. For most of us, there...
is a budget that we have, and we may want the top of the line quality, but can you afford top of the line quality camera and lenses and accessories and tripods and all those other things that go along with it? You've got to think big picture in that regard, and I think if you save yourself, I just can't decide on what size sensor to get, then you need to really look into your soul and figure out what it is that you want to do because you haven't really figured out what you want to d'oh that's like going to college saying, I'm not sure I'm going, I'm going to major in art in geology and math and science, and I'm gonna try to be a doctor as well all the same time, you know, you gotta pick one way and that's your route, we're gonna pick a brand. Which brand system do you want to go with? What are the available cameras and lenses? And do they meet your needs? What style of shooting do you d'oh? Because some of the camera companies really focus on muralists or they focus on sl ours and that may or may not match up with what you're doing, what your long term goals? Well, right now I'm on a tight budget, but I really want to become a professional photographer, but right now I can only afford this, and so what sort of system do you want to get into and continue to grow? Because you remember what we said earlier, where the grass appears green around the other side. Switching maybe a desire but it's expensive option to dio and so if you plan a long term b with a particular system, you probably want to start a base level with it, then you're going to need to choose a particular camera. This will be based on what your current and future needs are kind of the features in performance of that particular camera, and we've got to throw our budget in there again. You know which level camera is going to fit, and so even if you have a huge budget, I don't care if it costs upwards of twenty thousand dollars all by any camera I want you want to get one that fits your current needs in your future needs, and I think most people would be best to buy a camera that is either at their level or ideally, one step above their level. So where you and one step above that is a good place to be as faras a cameron. So if you are a brand new amateur, I don't recommend a top of the line professional camera. I think it's going to be overwhelming for a lot of photographers, and then you're going to need to choose a lens for that system, and this is going to be based on what type of subjects you are shooting. We talked a little bit about this when we were going through the land section we're also going to want to look at the size and weights of these lenses zoom lenses versus fix lenses the light gathering ability and our budget of course is going to play a part in this and so this is part of the process that we're going to go through so let's talk again about some of those sensor sizes large medium and small we got it right down here folks we got your large bag we got your medium bag and we got your small back what what bag is it that you want to carry around and you know when I'm a headed out with friends for the evening and we're going to go to the movies this is a nice little bag to bring along that's you know almost you know I don't even notice that it's there and when I'm out shooting more seriously I don't mind taking one of these larger bags I mean I do have bags bigger than this they go into backpacks but I can fit a nice full frame slr in here I could fit three really good quality lenses and I can do just about anything that you would want to do photographically really high quality with this and it's not that not big what do you feel comfortable walking around with as I say go to the bag department first so the full frame versus cropped. We had a whole section on this, but let's, just talk about this again because this is where a lot of people they want to be full friend. They want to be full frame shooters. Should you do it? Well, if you plan to go pro and you could afford it, do it now you'll save upgrading cost later on the best for low light, you're going to shoot concerts, the light definitely going to be the best if you really want that shallow depth of field. So if you are into portrait photography and you really want to compete with the best of the folks out there right now you want this. This is going to give you the most options for wide angle work. If you're a landscape photographer, their arm or wide angle lenses that you can choose here than anything else, everything costs more here. Cameras, lenses, everything. So you gotta have the budget for it and everything's little bit bigger, too. I think the crop frame is a great place for most people to start that's kind of like the default starting position, and then you either go down or up from the medium size, definitely going to be much more affordable, it's going to be great for telephoto work. I personally use a full frame for most of my work, but I also own a crop frame camera because I like to use that for wildlife in sports photography. It just makes my lens is more powerful, and it has more than enough quality for what I'm using my pictures for the smaller, lighter system is very attractive. We get it into the smaller size bags, and in general, if you are spending less than five thousand u s dollars, you're probably better off with that medium size sensor when you're including lenses into the mix, because when you're up here, yeah, you can get a full friend camera for well under five thousand dollars, but you're only going to end up with one or two lenses, and chances are, if you have a full frame camera, you're going probably want to have three lenses, and so if you know that you're going to have an extra two thousand dollars next year to spend, ok, well, maybe full frame now start with a few basic lenses and add on to it and grow with it. The performance of the camera in my mind mainly comes down to the focusing and the frames per second that you can shoot the big difference right now is in focusing. And the d s l ours are much better at tracking action if sports photography of wildlife photography is important to you, the dslr zehr outperforming all of the mirror list game risk by a fairly long shot. Right now, the marylise cameras are making up that distance very, very quickly and in a short number of years, if anyone still happens to see this video out in twenty twenty, let me go back then, with marylise cameras were considered as good, they outperformed dslr tze by tenfold you know, it's going to change, we know that I just don't know how fast it's going to change. We've talked a little bit about the different brands and we will talk a little bit more about them and I can't tell you which brand is best for you depends on the factors that are important to you, it's going to depend on what you want to choose on the available cameras, you kind of want to look at where I'm at now, where might I be in three or four years from now? And what camera would I choose being three or four more years advanced? If this was the same collection because I would like to be able to upgrade my camera to the next level up, that has something I want to aspire to, something greater. How many lenses do they have? Do they fit my needs now? Are they coming up with new lenses? What are the accessories? What am I trying to do in my trying to take pictures at my home studio and I need certain types of lighting accessories that one's better than the other the support system this has everything to do with your local camera shot do they carry this particular brand? What do the repair services like? Where are those going to be done? What if you want to rent equipment? You know, like we're talking about renting lenses they don't rent lenses for all the manufacturers they're going to write him only for the most popular ones and just how available is this stuff is this hard to find esoteric stuff where you know it's it's hard to get in the items that you need? Is this a camera company that's growing and getting larger and more and more popular? There is a definite benefit with herd mentality because you're going to have more choices if you said you know what I really need to pick up a portrait lands I just need to go on ebay or craigslist and find somebody selling a portrait lance when it's something like canon and nikon there's going to be a lot of them out there when it's, samsung and fuji there's less choices because there's not a many as many people using those systems now the big camera systems out there the main systems are from canon and nikon and so smaller companies like pentax and samsung will often have an an attitude of we try harder that's the number two position when you're behind you got to try harder and so right now for instance samsung makes this camera called the imex one and on paper it is phenomenal it outclasses all the cannons and all the night cons I haven't seen one because I haven't met anybody who shoots samsung the camera store down the street doesn't carry it and I don't know how long it's going to be before I see someone actually shooting with this camera and so that's kind of ah dilemma that's a little bit too hard to deal with and so the safe choice his canon and nikon okay it's real simple if you were more knowledgeable about what your needs are then you can go to the other systems and they could be in some cases better according to what your needs are you really have to address your particular needs one of the first dilemmas is okay I don't have a lot of money I want to get a basic camera like a nikon d thirty three hundred or a cannon team t five what about this slightly upscale entry model like for cannon they had these different rebel cameras but they have like three different models and it's kind of confusing and with nikon, they have these two cameras thirty three in the fifty five hundred, which look very similar, but they pack a lot of different features in them, and so, in general, what they're doing on the upscale model is they're adding in a lot of features, and on the lower end, they're pulling those features out just to kind of strip him down to the bare bones basic, and so you're going to get extra features a little bit more performance, maybe a little bit better, focusing or frames per second on it. The entry level models, you're going to get less features, performance in a lower price, and so if you're struggling with price, I would say go with lowest end and better quality glass, better quality lenses, because you'll upgrade that camera body in either case, three years, four years down the road. And so if money is not a huge issue, I would say, get those few extra features, they're worth the extra hundred bucks. It depends on how tight the money is. If it's really tight, don't worry about it, if you have a little bit it's nice to have the next step up, going from entry level to what we call mid level in this case, who we're talking about the canon rebel siri's like the t six I jumping up to the cannon seventy d or in a nikon skase the fifty five hundred jumping up to the new seventy two hundred the big difference here is the one controlled I'il versus the two control dials that we talked about earlier, which means if you're going to be operating your camera manually, these mid level cameras are going to be easier to work with because there's less button pressing and less fussing around on the camera we mentioned the viewfinder, the lower and cameras used the pen tamir the higher and cameras use a penta prison, which is going to give you a little bit brighter sharper view finder the top shutter speed will be one four thousand worth versus one eight thousand most people are never gonna bother shooting at eight thousandth of a second, but if you did portrait photography out in bright sunlight, then that might come in handy a little bit in a very general sense there's going to be less buttons on the lower end camera and mohr buttons on the backer on the hiring cameras because we want to have direct control and over on the lower end cameras, we kind of want to hide all those features because it intimidates people from pressing those buttons so we don't want to have to press all those buttons, so if photography is something you really want to get into it, this is the new hobby your new activity that you want to get into those mid levels are going to be definitely a nice step up to save some money the fifty, five hundred at least compared to the seventy, two hundred it has most of the features at a much lower price, you just kind of have to work around all those features to get into them and play with them. All right? So here we're going to do a bit of a round robin talking about each of the camera manufacturers and the models that they have available, so with cannon they have their rebel siri's, which is their entry line model. The t five is their least expensive camera, the sl one is an unusual camera and that they tried to reduce the size of it as much as possible. So it's for people who want an slr but size is the most important issue and their new t six I and their t six s, which are kind of companion cameras are going to beam or their full featured entry level cameras, and these are all very safe choices because kanan is hugely popular and they're very well featured cameras that are going to compare quite favorably on the market stepping up we are still in the crop frame sensor, so we're the one point six crop frame censor the seventy d is just a great intermediate level camera the new seventy mark to is a very high performance sports camera, so if you're in the wildlife or sports it has sixty five cross point auto focus is focus points and it has ten frames per second. So if you want to be shooting sports next to their absolute top of the line six thousand dollars camera that is the camera to be doing it with from there there is a gigantic dividing line when you jump into the full size sensors and it's not just the camera body it's all the lenses that you need to start changing over for that the sixty is kind of their entry level camera, which is kind of equivalent to the seventy d in its features and performance. The five day mark three is a favorite among a lot of photographers it's great from photojournalism, wedding photography, landscape photography, all sorts of things new five b s is a brand new camera it's the fifty megapixel camera it's going to be for some product photographers and landscape photographers, this is like the high performance lamborghini that you do not give to your teenager ok, that is not your first camera, their top of line camera this is what all the sports shooters were shooting on the professional sports line obviously a fantastic camera and we're not talking about it much here because this class is called your first dslr so some thoughts on cannon is that they have the largest system, so it's, one of the safest choice is to go with a ce faras herd mentality. What is everyone else doing? It's a very safe choice it's been around for a long time, so we've got a fully developed lens and flash system out there. The slr viewfinder is my favorite. I really like working with that when I'm not shooting in the field for all types of photography, and they have just an incredibly, very fast focusing system, so if you want to shoot action very good system to go with, they also have the bonus is that they have a lot of their own cinema lenses, so if you're going to shoot movies and you are an independent filmmaker, you're a film buff, and you want to shoot movies, cinematographers, and we're not going to go into the whole gig. They have their own requirement for lenses. They want different style lenses that do things differently, then for still photographers and cannon has a fairly large and growing system of these lenses that really nobody else in the industry has, and so when you compare him to nikon and panasonic, actually, sony has introduced one, lands that has it, but they're really unparalleled in that regard night got the main competitors to cannon their entry level cameras are the thirty three in the fifty, five hundred they're both very nice entry level cameras the fifty five is much more full featured. It has actually most of the features of the seventy, two hundred in it, but in the form factor of the thirty, three hundred so it's a bit of a compromise camera in between nikon does not offer as many choices in the crop frame camera. It appears that nikon is really wanting to upgrade everybody into the full frame market. Those lenses are more expensive and that's more money for them s so they really want to get you in, so they have a very affordable six ten, which is a nice camera. They have a very unusual camera, the df we're not even gonna get into that, but if you want to be the unusual kid on the block, get yourself a d f seven fifty has been a very popular new full frame camera, and their eight ten is their high thirty six megapixel resolution camera fantastic camera it's been very popular in the d eight hundred. Now the d a ten model, the december fifty is one of most popular full frame cameras that has come out on the market has attracted a lot of attention and of course, they're top of the line deforest port sports camera for shooting professionals now some thoughts on nikon is a lot of the exact same things that we saw with cannon they have a huge collection of lenses and accessories, and I says I said before anybody who shot cannon could easily switch over to nighttime and their business is not going to suffer and their image quality and their art is not going to suffer there's very few lenses or accessories that are totally unique there's a couple that are unique, but they're pretty esoteric items been around a long time nikon has had the same lens mount since the nineteen fifties, and they've been making slow upgrades to it. And so that's, what sixty five years now very fast focusing so if you want to shoot sports and wildlife, nikon like cannon is a great system to go with dslr viewfinder. We talked about that with cannon great system for all types of dealing, and so both nikon and cannon really hard to go wrong with they're both very, very good systems it's very rare that we'll see a bad camera come from either of these manufacturers there a little bit conservative and what they come out with a kind of wait to see where everything goes and they're just generally good safe choices also in the slr field, the dslr as we have pentax pentax is one of the smaller companies that doesn't have as many options for instance here the main thing that's missing is no full frame cameras they have showed a prototype they're talking about it we might see it sometime in the next six months to the next year but they have kind of regulated themselves two more of the entry and mid level cameras spec wise these cameras compare very favorably to night constant cannons in fact many cases on paper they appear better it's a small company they are very dedicated they love their photographers they've been in business for a long, long time they have weatherize a lot of there cameras which is really cool that have very nice weather seals some of the night cons and some of the cannons are whether it's healed you have to look into particular models in that case this is a limited section. So if you said I really want to go pro, I want full frame options well, they're currently not available and they may have some in the future but it's not definite in the market right now and so that does have a limitation when it comes to pentax they do have a lot of products dedicated to the cameras that they have right now and so if you said this is going to fit my needs there are some nice options I would look at the availability where they are, how common they are in your region of the world sony the s l t we didn't really explain the s l t and I'm not going to get into it here it's very similar to the dslr they're using a slightly different system and this is if I was a stockbroker I would issue a do not buy and so you can tell this is not sponsored here I would not recommend buying these cameras unless you already own sony products and this is where your investment in lenses and accessories if it is I say you're fine. The problem is is that sony took over the minolta brandon lenses that minolta mt and what they've been doing is they've been slowly coming out with different types of products and there are fewer and fewer of these products and you can see we don't have a lot to choose from here, and so they're putting out a few products to satisfy their existing customers. But you can just tell by their advertising and the types of products that they're coming out with that they're not really trying to attract people to these type of products. And I would not be surprised at all in three or four years if these air the exact same cameras that are available from sony just because they just this is not where they're putting their research and design they're going more into mere lists and they're trying to transition people over to their muralist cameras and so if you have a collection of sony herman ultra lenses and you're looking for a camera, these are great cameras, they take great pictures, they have great technology and great features, they do a lot of things better than icons and cannons, and they do things that they don't do, which is nice, but it is a diminishing system in my night it's a very good auto focus system for the money because of this type of unique focusing system that they have that we're not going to get into, but it is limited when you get into the high in collection because we do only have one choice in full friend cameras, so let's dive into the world of muralist cameras, we'll start with olympus. Olympus has a couple of small cameras that do not have viewfinders, which is a major warning sign right now from me to you about make sure that you want to camera that doesn't have a viewfinder because that's going to have a big impact on how and where you can use the camera. They do even make an optional viewfinder that'll fit on some of their cameras so that you can out of you, flying here to it and that's a nice option, it does make it a little clunky and awkward in shape. So you're going to make sure that that's right for you I much prefer the cameras that have a viewfinder in it and so they have they've been kind of really digging into this whole retro style they're designing a lot of their cameras like their old cameras and the m ten I think is a wonderful little camera the him five which I've showed you over here I'm gonna be doing the class for that coming up and the e m one which is their higher in professional cameras still all using the four thirds lens mount so all of these lenses can be interchanged with each other and also the panasonic micro four thirds lend system and just a quick word of warning. Several years ago there was a system called four thirds that used the same size sensor but it was a different type of lens mounts so you want to make sure that if you're getting into the system it says micro for thirds in this and so this is really nice and you're going to see these cameras come up when we come to the recommendation section coming up when I when people are looking for a really small camera because if you said you know I just want to go out with some friends and hang out for a night on the town and I just want to take a little camera with me but I know what I'm doing and I know shutter speeds and apertures, and I want to make those changes ah, little camera like this is going to do a pretty good job in a very lightweight, and this is just about the size of a standard point and shoot camera and so there's a lot you can do with those little micro four thirds cameras, so olympus, they've been around a long time. They used to have a lot of very popular cameras back in the seventies and eighties, and so they have a long tradition of making small cameras really, really well, and they had just put a lot of emphasis on really keeping things small, and so if you want a small camera, olympus has one of the best complete lineups of small cameras, so it is using that micro for third system, which means that we're getting into very small lenses in that compatibility with the panasonic lou mix syriza's well, and they're bringing out mohr and mohr high end lenses. They have a three hundred f four coming out. They have these really fast zoom lenses, a forty to one fifties white angles and a new fish I so if you really want sweet glass and we'll talk more about glass later, but we've talked about it so far, I good quality glass. Is really where a lot of pictures or hat and that is a good glass and they're getting some very nice glass out there. So olympus and panasonic combined together to make this micro for third system. Panasonic calls their cameras lou mix camera so if you see a loom it's on the front it's just simply the branding by panasonic, some of their small cameras have viewfinders, some do not the little red one that I showed you down here. This does have a view finder on it, but it has the tiniest of viewfinders you've ever seen it's like a little tiny, be plainer it's not something I'd want to look through for an entire football game, for instance. I really like the gx seven, I think that's, a nice compact camera and the g h four goes into a whole different realm and so that's their high end camera that is extremely good at shooting video there's a lot of people who like shooting video and this is one of the best cameras you could buy if you said I want to shoot a lot of video and I have a whole lot of high end needs when it comes to shooting video, so we're going to see that in the recommendation section for the video shooter out there. Panasonic is still relatively new to the photographic world in general they have a very strong presence in the video world they have a lot of panasonic video cameras if that panasonic video cameras since the seventies and so they have a lot of tradition and nod knowledge about video so there they come in strong with video and so that gh siri's there was a gauge three engaged to and hear the gauge for is just a very good camera for shooting video part of that for third system so it's kind of nice because there's a lot of lenses that you can choose from in that regard and they've put a high importance on compact size on most of their cameras the gh ford not so much but on their other cameras small size is pretty important and so making some pretty good modern cameras then we get back into sony and sony this is their muralist category and this is where they're really putting their emphasis and you can see by how many cameras they have in here this is when you know hey, this camera company has taken this seriously they have a lot of cameras that are aimed at the newbies, the new photographers and they switched naming system so we have this weird naming system any x seven that used to be their naming system they now call everything alfa this alfa that and so they this is an older camera, the n e x seven it's, a very nice camera, and a lot of us have been waiting for an n e x nine or an eight or some other number that they can come up with and it's getting older and older, and it looks like sony really is concentrating on the low end market when it comes to the midsize sensor and these cameras aa lot of these cameras don't have viewfinders, I have found them a little bit more philly when it comes to small buttons and diving into controlling things manually. If somebody said I want a small camera and I don't really want to get into photography, I just want the camera to do good pictures on its own because I don't have time and it's just not where I am right now, then I would say these are a very strong choice because they have great sensors. I have great technology, they have nice lenses, but if you're getting like I'm going to get kind of serious, I want some higher in lenses and I can't afford full frame there's just limited choices in here, I think there's some other, better choices on the market they just introduced this was a holy grail in photography, there's there's, these different holy grails we put out there and this was the full frame marylise camera because with this we could potentially use nikon and canon lenses on here and they have three different cameras at twelve, twenty four and thirty six megapixels. And so if you're shooting video, if you're shooting under really low light, a lot of those users like the a seven s because video users don't need a lot of resolution it's easy to get hd resolution in twelve megapixels most photographers were going with the a seven to twenty four that's more than enough but there's a few people who really want to max out the resolution with the a seven are but that does require very skilled hands in used to get the most out of this for sony, it seems very clear that there's lower in models are based on mohr entry midlevel users and then it kind of cuts off very quickly before you can transition up to the full size. And so the full frame uses air very much high end. And so, in my opinion, if I was advising sony is that they don't really have a bridge not nearly as well as canon and nikon because in canon and nikon you khun smoothly take one step up and it's a little bit more in a little bit more advanced so there's a bit of a big jump here their full frame system is extremely small right now they have very few lenses there's only about seven lenses out on the market there's a few more coming out in the next eighteen months or so, but it's a very limited system. And so going into that system, you better make sure that you have what you need now, because it may be a while before it gets there. So fuji is a company that's been around for a long time. I've been selling twenty cameras for many, many years because they sold a lot of medium format cameras they may care is back in the sixties and seventies, they didn't. They kind of missed the boat when it came to sl ours and thirty five millimeter film, but they're back in the game in digital, they have a couple of cameras that don't have viewfinders, which I'm obviously not as big a fan of, but once you get into the xy two and the xt e one, we're looking at some really nice cameras. And so for cameras with this intermediate size, medium size sensor, this is some of the best image quality you're going to get. There was a bit of technology, that's going in that's a little bit different than other manufacturers, and they have taken off that a filter that we talked about and I took the xy two and actually the previous xy one when I went to cuba last year for a photo to where I was doing and we did a class here, creative live, where he blew up the photos to foot by three foot shot with a sixteen megapixel camera and they look great is one of those situations where normally I think we would need more resolution, but thie cameras, the terminology willie sometimes uses, they punch above their weight level, you know you think it's a sixteen megapixel, a pc sensor, but the image quality compared to the other manufacturers just does really, really well, the expo ones getting little old. We're going probably see that diskant discontinue, but this sixty one it has the largest, best view finder of any camera in its class, and as I said before, the viewfinder is a very important part of the camera, so here they're focused a little bit more on the high end users. These lower in cameras, they're not super competitive. If you actually look at the sony's for kind of like the six hundred dollars camera with interchangeable lens, the sony's will probably outclass the fugees, but when you get up to the higher end of these cameras than the food use will really start to shine. Long tradition, as they say in photography, so they bring a lot to the game on that shows through in the types of products and features that they bring out in their camera. It's a very quickly growing system, and fuji has has taken an unprecedented, unprecedented step of honesty with their clients and their users. They put out a road map of lenses. These are the lenses that we're going to be working on for the next two years so you can go. Oh, great, they're going to have a really fast mid length portrait lands that will be coming out sometime next year. I can plan my purchases and around this because I know what they're coming in because it's a brand new system there probably the quickest company to come out with firmware upgrades. For instance, they come out with a new camera and a bunch of people go, you know what? Did it be great if you could do this thing this way rather than that way? Four months later, they'll come out with the firmware upgrade that allows you to switch that thing. I know I have won a fuji camera, and they added in features that it never had when I bought it. And I was actually about to sell the camera and then they had the firmware upgrade and all of a sudden it's like I have a new camera and so they've done a really good job about listening to their customers and following what they're demanding in a camera samsung this is the new kid on the block and so they have a number of lower and cameras without viewfinders and they have a couple of hiring cameras so it's a limited system it's small, they are bringing a lot of technology to it. I think the next one is a twenty eight megapixel camera, which is the highest resolution of any camera with that size of sensor in there, it shoots it something ridiculous like fifteen frames a second, which is fifty percent faster than the next best camera. So on paper they look great, but once again, if I was a stockbroker, I would just put a warning by this, you know, you really want to be careful. You get this because I could see someone getting a samsung camera on it takes forever to get it repaired because I got to send it all the way back to japan because there's not local repair facilities, I'm trying to find another lands, but my local camera store doesn't carry a lens and I can't find anyone who has the lens that I want and so they're great cameras, but you've got to be aware of buying into this smaller system and so as they say very competitive feature set in here new kid on the block they've got they've got to get in there, improve their time with me before I take him fully seriously, I'm taking him seriously enough to include him in here, eh? So obviously a very limited collection that we're looking at there now we're gonna bring back nikon again because they do make a collection of marylise cameras the industry as a whole has been waiting for nikon and cannon to introduce a serious bid into the world of marylise cameras, and when I got introduced the one siri's with its very tiny sixteen millimeter sensor everyone just kind of really that's all that's all you're going to dio and so they're going after a different market they're going after people who want an exceptionally small camera and really don't have a lot of aspirations with manual control on their camera and so they've actually got a very nice focusing system manually controlling these cameras is a nightmare I just I wouldn't want this on my worst enemy if you have to manually select shutter speeds and apertures on a regular basis, these air designed for people who are on the go who want a small camera that takes much better pictures than their phone or a point and shoot camera and they want to have a little bit of choice and lance's there's. Not a lot of choices, but it does enable them to have even smaller size cameras. To be honest with, you know, though, they're not that much smaller than the micro. Four thirds, even though their sensor size is about half the size, they do have a great focusing system. And so for somebody who said, I got a little toddler that runs around, and I just need something I can throw in the diaper bag that small in light, and I could take pictures real quickly. This is not a bad choice for that very small spencer. We talked about that very limited lens collection.