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TTL vs. Manual Recycle Times

Lesson 28 from: Lighting 101

SLR Lounge, Pye Jirsa

TTL vs. Manual Recycle Times

Lesson 28 from: Lighting 101

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28. TTL vs. Manual Recycle Times

Lessons

Class Trailer
1

Chapter 1 Introduction

01:26
2

Why Just One On-Camera Flash

04:22
3

5 Reasons to Use Flash

10:37
4

Common Flash Myths

06:51
5

What Makes Flash Challenging?

04:56
6

Chapter 2 Introduction

01:36
7

Flash-Strobe vs. Ambient-Constant Light

08:19
8

Flash vs. Ambient Light Exposure

03:07
9

Flash vs. Ambient Demo

06:42
10

Flash and Ambient Balancing for Natural Effect

07:11
11

Flash and Ambient Balancing for Dramatic Effect

04:19
12

Flash and Ambient Balancing for Creative Effect

07:10
13

Understanding Flash Duration

08:37
14

Chapter 3 Introduction

01:34
15

5 Common Key Light Patterns

08:38
16

5 Common Key Light Patterns w/ Diffusion & Fill

07:42
17

5 Common Secondary Light Patterns

08:28
18

3 Primary Subject Patterns

05:27
19

Light Qualities

09:56
20

The Inverse Square Law

07:50
21

Inverse Square Law in Practice

08:21
22

Corrective White Balance

10:02
23

Creative White Balance

05:47
24

Chapter 4 Introduction

01:58
25

On Board vs. Hot Shoe Flash

05:57
26

Full Feature vs. Manual Flashes

08:59
27

TTL vs. Manual Control

08:12
28

TTL vs. Manual Recycle Times

04:43
29

Flash Power & Zoom

09:18
30

HHS vs. ND Filters

12:29
31

FCS vs. RCS

07:11
32

Chapter 5 Introduction

01:38
33

4 Tips When You Must Use Direct Flash

06:00
34

Bare Bulbing Done Right

11:42
35

Grid Snoot + Direct Flash

06:43
36

Mini Beauty + Direct Flash

06:08
37

Ring + Direct Flash

07:52
38

Understanding Modifiers

09:24
39

Direct Flash + Shutter Flash

09:07
40

Chapter 6 Introduction

01:55
41

Ambient vs. Direct Flash vs. Bounce Flash

14:27
42

Silver Bounce

14:27
43

More Light Silver

11:02
44

Soft White Bounce

15:41
45

Overhead Bounce

11:39
46

Overhead Bounce + Fill

09:42
47

Event Bounce

12:42
48

Chapter 7 Introduction

01:38
49

Natural vs. Dramatic Light

17:43
50

Filling and Refining Existing Light

08:44
51

Coloring Light for Corrective Effect

13:33
52

Coloring Light for Creative Effect

10:27
53

Chapter 8 Introduction

00:43
54

Case Study 1 - Dramatic Sunset

09:45
55

Case Study 2 - Desert Sunset

10:04
56

Case Study 3 - Sinister Headshot

09:40
57

Case Study 4 - Family Portrait

08:21
58

Case Study 5 - Athlete Portraits

11:19
59

Case Study 6 - Working Angles

07:22
60

Case Study 7 - Drag + Composite

08:09
61

Case Study 8 - Less is More

07:16
62

The Good Karma Jar

01:41
63

Favorite Feature Flashes

05:52
64

Favorite Manual Flashes

21:35
65

Favorite On Camera Flash Modifiers

21:21

Lesson Info

TTL vs. Manual Recycle Times

TPL versus manual recycled times. I'm not gonna keep beating you over the head with this. Well, yeah, I actually I'm gonna keep looking over there with us. Let's talk about this because a lot of people, including our own staff photographers, often have said to me pie Other people say that titi l recycles just as quickly as manual, and I say to them it does not. In fact, if you think about it logically for one second if your cameras firing a pre flash and then flashing afterwards, it would use a little bit of power for that pre flash, would it not? And they say yes. Don't you think that takes a little bit about her power? Yes. Don't you think that would require a little more recycled time afterwards? Because your flash fired twice? Yes. So don't you think that you re cycle time would be a little bit slower with t t l versus manual? I don't understand. I don't understand the logic behind it. So what I did was actually did a test. I used the canon 5 80 x two. We ran a simple test. Just ap...

prove this point. Let's talk about how we did it. So we're using the 5 80 x two. We use standard Duracell and any loop rechargeable batteries. We ran the test three times with each, just to make sure, like we didn't want anybody to doubt the results. Okay, So each time we use brand new batteries, either freshly recharge any groups or brand new Duracell's with each test procedure. Here it was. We had a Libya sitting there. We set up a little clamshell lighting set up. We had the camera on a tripod, so that way, nothing would change. Okay, we're using manual and T tail exposures on the flash, and we set those exposures basically to be identical across the board. So that way, when a manual flash fired, it was the same exposure as when the TT all fired. We did a manual test. First we did the T tail test second. So what did that mean? We started manual and then we tested T t l and then went back to manual on the same set of batteries before swapping batteries. The test here was that if basically, we only did the manual test first and then we did TL first people would say, Oh, this is the batteries. But by doing this, we start with manual. So we use the batteries first on manual, the same set of batteries within switched over the CTL to get our reading and the same center batters went back to manual. So now the batteries had been used twice once manual ones. Tieleman back to manual to get our final kind of test results. Okay, so manuals has the third that we ran the same test three different times with each other batteries and with the exact same results. Now the numbers slightly varied, based on how old the batteries were like whether the any hopes were a new set of any loops person old set. But the numbers were identical in the way that they progressed. Okay, so camera settings was of a second F 7.1, and I so 100 that way, we're running a pretty heavy flash. Okay, So under t tl were at plus one and 2/3 for the exploded setting and manual were between 1/2 and 1/4 power. All right, now, once I was all set up, we starting our shots and check us out. This was the result that we got across the board manual would start out extremely quick. We're at 0.58 seconds for the first recycle 0.731 point away, 1.23 and then from there it slowly declines to 1.33 by the eighth shot. When we switch over to T T L, it goes immediately to 1.51 point 68 and it starts dropping. We end at 2.51 on the 12th on T O, then switching back to manual, mind you. Same set of batteries back to manual. The first recycled 0.66 We ended at 2.51 2nd recycle is point 83rd. Recycle was 1.38 and that's where basically stabilizes. We end at 1. after 10 additional shots. Now, at the very end of this, let's not even talk about the earlier numbers. At the very end, 1.66 that's more than 50% faster, like like or 2.51 seconds is more than 50% slower than 1.66 That is a huge difference in recycled time. So does t t l use more power. And does it slow down your recycled time? Yes. If your camera if your flash is firing a pre flashed engage exposure, it will indeed use power. And it will indeed slow down the recycled time If you don't believe me, Run the test yourselves guys, We've done it six times here just to show you and have all the video footage there to prove it and everything. So please take my word for it. And don't waste your time. Let's move on to the next video.

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