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Capture One vs. Photoshop Workflow

Lesson 17 from: Working with Capture One Pro 9

Nino Batista, Dave Gallagher

Capture One vs. Photoshop Workflow

Lesson 17 from: Working with Capture One Pro 9

Nino Batista, Dave Gallagher

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Lesson Info

17. Capture One vs. Photoshop Workflow

Lessons

Class Trailer
1

Class Introduction

14:41
2

History of Capture One

11:50
3

Dave's Capture One Workflow

07:03
4

Licenses, Versions, Keeping Up To Date

05:27
5

How & Why to Upgrade

12:15
6

Workflow Organization Tools

28:57
7

Raw Files & Sidecars

13:46
8

Sessions & Catalogs

19:23

Lesson Info

Capture One vs. Photoshop Workflow

how people ask me all the time. How do you incorporate Photoshopped into your workflow? That is a fantastic question. And some of the pushback you get from some people talking about capture one is Well, how do I go from capture 12 Photoshopped back to capture one the photo that because people have that in their light room workflow, right? And of course, the, you know, in terms of like, wanting to keep raw data, Well, the answer is no. By the same time, I think embracing what everything Capture one conduce you and finishing in photo shop, which I still endorse. Um, I think I think that if worth it because of the control and the color and the smoothness and the beautiful nice that you can get. And I'll be honest. I've been doing location shooting now for many, many ones, almost the entire year. I haven't been in the studio a very, very long time, officially working on projects. So when I am out indoors and how depth and textures and then next to me were captured, one really shines and ge...

tting an outdoor image to be graded and beautiful the way I like it this should be mostly true color. This image to me is very catalogue e looking shot. So I already have too much grading going on this. Later on the program, I would work with an outdoor image that we shot on the roof on the creative Life patio. So you're saying this looks too good? No, I shot. It's not a little too good. No, it's My point is that there's, ah lot. I mean, those are the tools that I use and you notice it's pretty basic. Everything that they've been covering is going to cover. We're going talk about later on. You may not use. Okay, we're gonna talk about Keystone. We're gonna talk about some other lens distortion correction, which it does automatically. I know where we talked about that, but I have no need for I don't shoot wider than 85. Really? So for me, um, I have a very repeatable, very expected results, so I don't worry about certain tools, and I haven't deleted them because it is the default setting. But that's something I hope you take away from. It is that this program can be, you know, industrial level commercial level to work with an entire team in a David and a team of Dave's on an art director. Everything else or it could just be me trying to make a pretty image when I visit the West Coast and that scalability of I really like about it. I don't want you to be scared of it. If nothing else, you know, keep this video for reference later, but go in down the trial, play with it, slide things around, put a raw project that you just recently worked on. So you can compare it in your head to what it was like in light room and a CR and play around with it. I pretty sure you're gonna see differences. Give it a real chance. Understanding interfaces difference Not worse, not better. It is different. How many of us are just married into the adobe interface, and I don't mean that in a flippant way. We just are were used to Adobe keeps their interface consistent so their users can have consistent product version after version were we get used to it? Just get used to anything, right? When you come to this interface, it is not worse. I've heard people say And I strongly disagree that capture one interfaces of mess. It's hard to use. It's hard to understand. And I was like, Yeah, the 1st 20 minutes you're on it, but give it a chance. I don't tell you right now. It is worth it. Everything I've shown you, he showed me It seems so basic. It seems the literal I know. We went fast in the first segment. Some people were a little lost, but you need to download and play with it. Trust me on that, David. Anyone add real quick, um, for your workflow. No, you don't know my work exactly. So my question, really? When you're going through in star rating and then you're having to retouch on them. How many in this would you retire? You just read. Just want you just trying to get one good image you're trying to get four. So then how would you then take those 45 and apply those to the 45 the work that you've done? Have you streamlined that part of it? Ah, well, for me, I mean, I didn't actually do that. Here's only have a handful. Then they just go pick one but I would start them all. Five star or none, right? Flagging mall from there. And then if this is my sort of hero image again, Weaken, Weaken. Uh, I'm Becky, command guy. So I hit command shift. See which copies all the settings, right. And keep in mind, guys, this will throw you of you don't realize it will also, Cappy, when you do that, it also copied the crop in the rotation. You may not want that on every single shot. So when you paste, if you will your settings in the next one shift Command V. Okay. You see, I took the crop as well. That freaked me out at first, then realised Oh, yeah, we know it's every single setting. Let me show you another way to do only specific settings, which I play with all the time. Let me reset the crop road Quick and rotation of flip. All right. So specifically. Mm. All right. So let's say on this setting, I come over here and I don't know. I play around the contrast a bit and a little bit saturation like that, and I take down the exposure of it. If I like this particular tool settings. All right, what I tend to do anyway, There's all these little icons they talked about earlier. Right? Every single tool set has these five or six little icons hearing. I tend to click this little double sided arrow, especially if I have multiple selected, which I do in a second. Right. Then you can choose of the tool, which one? We turned the settings you want to take. And if there's no setting, one particular setting doesn't have anything changed. It won't be defaulted. Checked, right? All right, so I could take these three and just say copy if I want. Then when I come back into another image, I can hit. Usually I tend to use key commands. Shift Command V. I'm only pasting that particular tool sort of set right now. If I have multiple selected like this member Dave talked about earlier, this little option here, it's got to be honor. You're gonna start cursing and throwing things out windows. All right, If it's on, I can think of settings of like this one, and I can choose. I don't know. Let's go ahead and play with the levels real quick, just for grins. Think that and I can shoot on that little levels tool. I could take a little double arrow, and I could just immediately hit apply here and then apply that particular function to the images that are selected as long as that's there. So I tend to play with groupings like that and visually, every shot in the studio. They were very, very consistent. But I'll grouping together like this, and then I'll apply all the master hero shot settings. And then I'll tweet minor things to make sure this one, visually and aesthetically, looks like this one, even if it's just a little bit darker, a little lighter, a little more yellow, a little less yellow, etcetera. So that's kind of what I do. But in my work, I tend to very rarely deliver 50 shots of a project. Extremely rare. I'll deliver one very often a poster or something like that, or six so I don't have a work float necessary work. Look to deliver a ton of images or a cache of groupings of 10 from this and 15 from that 40 from this one project extremely rare for me, so there probably are better ways to organize big jobs. But I rarely ever do that deliver small amounts. I get this kind of the majority of what I do. I think I'm kind of covered that for now. What do you do? Your output by size here? You know, I don't actually, I treat every I guess, tended to photo shop, and then I finish it there. And then in photo shop, I decide how we went out there. Because that's where I finish. That makes sense. And I finished exclusively. I am gonna do an experiment coming up here soon, and I intend to do. An article about the experience is I'm gonna take an actual client job to completion only and capture one. I don't It highly recommend sending after size here. This is not a replacement for Photoshopped. Some of the things that you were doing, I might do it, might not do. This is personal on whether you do it in photo shop or not. But but if we know how strong the math is, how how incredibly algorithms are that that have been improved and get keep on improving the software? The algorithms for the color in gradation of the color and the edge definition, which we're gonna go into a little bit. They're so strong. Yeah, that while you size up here, it's gonna give you much better results to size up here for your final. So that's one thing that I would recommend is that you don't size their size here. Still do your retouching afterwards, but size up here in the Senate, it does he great. 250% upsides from your resident native resolution. So you're seeking how strong and how large you can go with that. So that's one thing that I would add to it that that completely greed some things I wouldn't do here. But that's one. But I would completely and I know there's a landscape shooter. No name Kevin Woodley. Hey, uses capture when he loves that upsizing because he'll end up printing his canvases 10 feet wide, and he loved that. He's like, That's one reason you switch. Of course, he has a seven or two as well, but that's one the reasons, which that So yeah, I I will try that I seldom need to do that. My work is almost exclusively seen online. A print of My work is extremely rare, but yeah, good point on that. I think that more or less covered it until we die right into tool by toward Yes. Yeah, you. When you go to photo shop, do you do it through the I was playing with this last night. Probably far too late for the hour. I had to get up this morning, so I got a little lost. I've been told to do it two different ways. One is through the interface here, and the other way is to save it as a tiff and go into photo shop with the tiff. How do you do it? How do I do it? I tend Teoh work on one image at a time, So I do tend to export the variant trade to photo shop. So, for example, like if I wanted, I don't know this image. Okay, I tend to right, click it and say export variants on. And then this little dialogue comes up Now in terms of organizing session output in terms of being hyper organized, which one should do in a large job, I tend to be I don't have a project folder directory and my one of my volumes, right? And I have my exports, and there is going to my finals. So I'll come in and I'll export it. For example, my typical was going to be a PSD 16 bet. And just leave it as the resolution that is that I don't usually upside. Don't need to, um And then you can come in here if you want. If I have one image, which is mostly the time I work on it, I'll just tell you go ahead and send it straight to photo shop right now. And I exclusively do 16 bit cause I want to preserve as much of the data as I can, But that's what I tend to do. Um, I tend to keep it actually, on adobe rgb, Just the greens. I like how it looks on my screen because there is a drop down that says at it in, and you can select photo shop, right? And then you could I couldn't figure out how it was transferring because it came up trying to remember it Came up is in any f going into photo shop. Oh, no, no. You know, I do. It was kicking on a CR Yeah, I think it opened a CR, which is and that was confusing. And that's when I said, Okay, it's time to go to bed. Yeah, there's the open with an edit with Yeah, right. I think we were correct. Correct. So So open with is after you do your processing. If you are one of the one off guys, why wait and have it automatically open once I hit process open with photo shop? Because that's what's going anyway. And I'm only doing one image. I'm not doing 100. If I'm doing an 100 do not do open with automatically because all 100 images will start popping up and photo shopping and you go, Oh, my God. And shut it off. Right. But if you are just a one off guy doing landscape into one room open with automatically, Photoshopped brings it up, ready for the next step. So open with makes a lot of sense at it with I did my raws here. Yeah, so I know permits for that. I don't understand why you'd want to. I'm sure there's a good reason you capture one just for organizing against I ever. Why? Yeah, yeah, so this this is what I do. But he said, I'm a very much work on one image at a time, kind of probably. I'll deliver sets as well, but I'm very much taken image to completion and take the set and make sure it all matches etcetera. So this is what I do. I've played around and noodle around with the, you know, the more formal output methods. But again I finish everything in photo shop. So my finishing techniques and photo shop is what I prefer still.

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Ratings and Reviews

Jesse Furqueron
 

Yes, per some other reviews this started slow. What turned me off was the sales spiel for the class. It also came across as a sales schtick for C1, which is ok given the presenter. Stuck with it (well most of it, had to step away at times) and found it useful. I've had my eye on C1 for a LONG time. I'm not a pro, but would consider myself a pretty serious amateur. I document old mining and narrow gauge steam engines, general travel and now do our product photography (started a new company, so all $ goes to that rather than C1, which I would LOVE to own after seeing C9). Went with Aperture back in the day because of its cataloging and price. Back then C1 didn't have cataloging, though it DID have a 2 tier price structure...(Phase WHY did ya'll do away with this?????). Back to the class. After lunch on the first day I think they found their stride. Second day, especially Nino in the afternoon was quite good. That was probably my fav session. Seemed like most questions came from the in-studio "captive" audience. Expected more from the web? Constructive feedback. 1) Could have condensed things down quite a bit. I liked the more casual approach it took later on first day and on the second day. Dave especially seemed more at ease. 2) Ya'll (Dave especially) seemed to have his topics scripted out. Given the two day nature of this, would have been nice to give the attendees an idea of agenda/timeslots for topics up front. If an agenda/timeline was presented...I totally missed it. But then, I couldn't back up or rewind the live stream when I had to step away several times... if I paused it jumped to the realtime stream :-( 3) C Lve was pushing the "free trial download"...isn't there already a trial download from Phase? What value are ya'll offering in this area above what they offer? I found this annoying, if there's an extended trial period or something through ya'll cool. If not...I'm back to the annoying aspect of it. 4) Nino, get a Cintiq :-) If C1 doesn't have a profile for Cintiq (I'm going to download the trial from Phase) Phase you need to add support for it. 5) Dave's material he presented should be in vids on his website to help him expand his C1 market..fantastic selling tool there Dave....or even better....embedded in the product itself (ala SilverFast). Phase, you listening? 6) Nino, given he's coming from a different angle, eg no skin in selling C1?, he could do a 3-5 hour intensive vid(s) and I'd pay something for that. YMMV but I liked his approach and presentation. Was disappointed no C1 on his YouTube :-( Would I pay 99.00 for this class? Honestly, no. We use 3D graphics (ZBrush) and CAD (Rhino) in our company and have been learning those over the last year. To compare. There is another tutorial company whose name I shall not mention (no, it does not start with an 'L') that specializes in vid classes for those and other 3D products. They structure their offerings on a AFFORDABLE monthly/6mos/yearly all-you-can-eat fee structure. Much more consumer friendly, and quite honestly their videos are very focused and about 4-6 hours per course. I don't see myself paying 99.00 much less 129.00 for just one course like this (especially with the sales spiel content) when other companies have a more customer friendly consumption model. A value for the $ thing. In the end I did learn some things, and I'm glad I watched what I could of it. And yeah, I'm pretty sure after this review I just got taken off the free C1 license contention list...but I'm just being honest...Dave, I will be ordering some of the LCC pocket accessories if I ever get C1...those were cool IMHO. C1 has come quite a ways. When I can, I'll add it to our software arsenal.

ira potter
 

I have been a user of Capture One for a couple of years but have strugled to get my head around the way to use this software as my chosen raw converter, I love the improved quality that Capture One gives me but always seem to end up scratching my head and going back to Lightroom to save time. I haven't been able to watch the full presentation due to time difference, (I am in the U.K), and other commitments but I have learnt so much in the time I have spent watching that I can finally see me waving goodbye to Lightroom in the very near future. The presenters are excellent teachers, they are funny, engaging and thanks guys you really have made a p[ositive difference to how I interact with Capture One software.

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