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Sunrise and Sunset

Lesson 76 from: Fundamentals of Photography 2016

John Greengo

Sunrise and Sunset

Lesson 76 from: Fundamentals of Photography 2016

John Greengo

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76. Sunrise and Sunset

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Lessons

Class Trailer
1

Class Introduction

17:26
2

Welcome to Photography

13:08
3

Camera Types Overview

02:00
4

Viewing Systems

28:43
5

Viewing Systems Q&A

08:45
6

Lens Systems

32:06
7

Shutter Systems

13:17
8

Shutter Speeds

10:47
9

Choosing a Shutter Speed

31:30
10

Shutter Speeds for Handholding

08:36
11

Shutter Speed Pop Quiz

09:06
12

Camera Settings

25:35
13

General Camera Q&A

14:38
14

Sensor Sizes: The Basics

15:33
15

Sensor Sizes: Compared

19:10
16

Pixels

20:13
17

ISO

21:13
18

Sensor Q&A

13:34
19

Focal Length: Overview

11:09
20

Focal Length: Angle of View

15:09
21

Wide Angle Lenses

08:48
22

Telephoto Lenses

25:23
23

Angle of View Q&A

09:29
24

Fish Eye Lenses

10:39
25

Tilt & Shift Lenses

23:42
26

Subject Zone

17:19
27

Lens Speed

09:56
28

Aperture Basics

08:46
29

Depth of Field

21:49
30

Aperture Pop Quiz

13:23
31

Lens Quality

18:30
32

Photo Equipment Life Cycle

03:57
33

Light Meter Basics

09:25
34

Histogram

15:25
35

Histogram Pop Quiz and Q&A

10:58
36

Dynamic Range

06:03
37

Exposure Modes

15:58
38

Manual Exposure

09:38
39

Sunny 16 Rule

05:54
40

Exposure Bracketing

10:18
41

Exposure Values

27:21
42

Exposure Pop Quiz

26:43
43

Focus Overview

16:15
44

Focusing Systems

05:15
45

Autofocus Controls

11:56
46

Focus Points

07:35
47

Autofocusing on Subjects

20:19
48

Manual Focus

07:52
49

Digital Focusing Assistance

03:40
50

Focus Options: DSLR and Mirrorless

04:58
51

Shutter Speeds for Sharpness and DoF

05:20
52

Depth of Field Pop Quiz

12:14
53

Depth of Field Camera Features

04:54
54

Lens Sharpness

09:58
55

Camera Movement

05:20
56

Handheld and Tripod Focusing

04:32
57

Advanced Techniques

07:12
58

Hyperfocal Distance

06:50
59

Hyperfocal Quiz and Focusing Formula

04:36
60

Micro adjust and AF Fine Tune

05:34
61

Focus Stacking and Post Sharpening

06:00
62

Focus Problem Pop Quiz

18:07
63

The Gadget Bag: Camera Accessories

25:30
64

The Gadget Bag: Lens Accessories

12:46
65

The Gadget Bag: Neutral Density Filter

20:43
66

The Gadget Bag: Lens Hood and Teleconverters

08:55
67

The Gadget Bag: Lens Adapters

05:43
68

The Gadget Bag: Lens Cleaning Supplies

04:34
69

The Gadget Bag: Macro Lenses and Accessories

15:57
70

The Gadget Bag: Flash and Lighting

05:08
71

The Gadget Bag: Tripods and Accessories

18:50
72

The Gadget Bag: Custom Cases

11:20
73

10 Thoughts on Being a Photographer

07:37
74

Direct Sunlight

25:04
75

Indirect Sunlight

18:49
76

Sunrise and Sunset

18:39
77

Cloud Light

14:48
78

Golden Hour

09:50
79

Light Pop Quiz

07:53
80

Light Management

14:00
81

Artificial Light

13:56
82

Speedlights

16:02
83

Off-Camera Flash

27:38
84

Advanced Flash Techniques

09:49
85

Editing Overview

08:24
86

Editing Set-up

08:06
87

Importing Images

16:45
88

Best Use of Files and Folders

20:54
89

Culling

20:56
90

Develop: Fixing in Lightroom

18:13
91

Develop: Treating Your Images

10:53
92

Develop: Optimizing in Lightroom

14:51
93

Art of Editing Q&A

06:01
94

Composition Overview

06:53
95

Photographic Intrusions

10:10
96

Mystery and Working the Scene

16:18
97

Point of View

09:11
98

Better Backgrounds

16:02
99

Unique Perspective

11:02
100

Angle of View

15:06
101

Subject Placement

41:14
102

Subject Placement Q&A

05:18
103

Panorama

07:39
104

Multishot Techniques

13:57
105

Timelapse

16:13
106

Human Vision vs The Camera

20:07
107

Visual Perception

08:35
108

Visual Balance Test

22:56
109

Visual Drama

12:25
110

Elements of Design

28:57
111

The Photographic Process

12:28
112

Working the Shot

27:38
113

The Moment

04:42
114

One Hour Photo - Colby Brown

1:04:32
115

One Hour Photo - John Keatley

1:03:05
116

One Hour Photo - Art Wolfe

59:01
117

One Hour Photo - Rocco Ancora

1:01:20
118

One Hour Photo - Mike Hagen

1:01:20
119

One Hour Photo - Lisa Carney

1:00:52
120

One Hour Photo - Ian Shive

1:08:00
121

One Hour Photo - Sandra Coan

1:10:29
122

One Hour Photo - Daniel Gregory

1:06:07
123

One Hour Photo - Scott Robert Lim

1:05:41

Lesson Info

Sunrise and Sunset

Alright, you guys ready for a brand new section? A lot of this is from other classes. So this is Sunrise & Sunset section, this is a rather long section. This came, this came up after, five days being in Rome, I was going out early in the morning to photograph and I ended up having a hotel room that was kind of near the Colosseum and I wanted to go out shoot five o'clock in the morning but to be honest with you there's not a lot of things that are open that photographers can go in and photograph at five o'clock in the morning so you're kind of regulated to things on the street and sidewalk. So I ended up going back to the Colosseum for several days in a row and I kind of found myself wandering around and I kind of saw a pattern developing of what I was shooting and where I was shooting and I started breaking down the whole sunrise, sunset because I gotta be honest with you, most of the time I just go out at sunrise going "Alright, this is a good time of day, I don't know what I'm g...

oing to shoot. Is it good over here? Is it good over here? Is it good over here? Oh, it's good over hear, okay, that's what I'm going to do." I would just kind of wander around, whatever looked good to me is what I would go to. Now that I've broken it down, I go out with more of a plan. "This is what I'm looking for, okay?" "Did I get this? okay, good." "Now this is what I'm looking for, now I'm going to go "over here, is it over here? Wait." "Now it's time to go back over here." And that's the important thing because if you're out just wandering aimlessly around, you're going to be going potentially at the wrong place and wrong time and you'll end up with nothing. But if you have a good plan, you can get several different types of shots if you have a plan. And so, you gotta know what you're looking for and what you can do. So, Sunrise and Sunset has always been talked about for a long time as being so great because we do have intense colors, we have this great light that's dramatically changing and it's different all the time, you know? Every sunrise and sunset always seems to be a little bit different. Even if there's no clouds and the sun's going down at the same speed, there's just something different about the atmosphere that's a little bit different. And so we always have that level of excitement. Now, these are hard to work with. There's a lot of people who are not morning people and at getting up cause you gotta get up real early if you wanna photograph sunrises, especially in the summer time. This is during dinner time, people don't want to be out there then. It could be good, it could be terrible. So, you just have to be able to, it's like buying a lottery ticket. You're probably not going to win but you might. That's why you go out there. This is a good time to be having those tripods because it's hard to do hand held photography out here and it is surprising at how fast it goes. When it comes down to it, there is about a couple of minutes where it's really good. That's really what you're going for, a couple of minutes of when it's really, really good. There might be some okay times in there, as well. So, first off, being aware of what exactly is the sunrise time, whereabouts is the sun coming up? So, if you have a GPS or directional that tells you where it's coming up, that's going to be really good. If you have a chance to go to that location ahead of time, which is very, very helpful. So, when I was in Rome, I had five days. I was there five mornings in a row. I knew exactly where the sun was coming up, I knew exactly when it hit this particular window so if you are planning or wanting to get good shots in a particular location, don't just plan one night there or just one morning there cause then, you're really, that's just not buying enough lottery tickets. OK, so we're going to use some graphs here. Just another way of understanding this information. We're having time and sunrise and sunset, I always kind of wondered, is one better than the other? And I think sunrises are better than sunsets. Now, part of it's just because most people don't like to wake up early in the morning and you're more likely to be out there by yourself at sunrise. So, it tends to be just a little bit more special. I think when you're standing there on the edge and you got this beautiful sunrise and you just don't see anyone around. It's like a very special, personal moment that I think is fantastic and you get it all to yourself. The other thing that's a little bit more factual is that the whole environment, whatever it's in, the city or out in nature, has kind of had eight hours to relax, collect due, have the wind blow and blow footprints away off of the snow or the sand, it's just kind of having a chance to rest and reset. So, it's in general, though, the lighting can be the same either direction. So, if it's sunset, just reverse it and go the other direction so we'll be mostly talking about sunrise. Alright, so it's dark, OK? That's how we start off. As the sun gets closer, we're going to get something called the Blue Zone and then we're going to enter a little bit of a dead zone, and then we'll have something called Cloud Light and then it sometimes, not always, sometimes gets worse and we actually get First Light. So these are the three peak moments of a potential sunrise. Now, you don't necessarily get three if you don't have clouds, you don't get this cloud light. So as the sun is illuminating the blue sky, we get this first little Blue Zone which is good for certain types of photography in certain directions. If you have clouds and they're in the right position and there's right gaps, you get this nice cloud light, there's often a little bit of a gap before the sun actually rises and then we get what's often called the golden hour or the magic hour which we actually get true sunlight on our particular subject. So if I was to diagram this, this is the Earth, this is the sky, there's our star and here you are over on the right hand side ready to shoot photos in the morning of our beautiful mountain here. OK, if you want to shoot nighttime stuff, that's good time to be out there but as the sun starts getting closer to the horizon, it starts illuminating the sky with blue and the starts start disappearing so at a certain point, you're gonna be able to look straight ahead, you're gonna see a little bit of blue in the horizon even though it's black still above you. This is a good time to be on location and be ready to start shooting. As that sun starts getting closer and closer to the horizon, that sky gets lighter and lighter and blue. There's going to be a certain point where the Sun is illuminating the sky right above where your subject is or right behind your subject and this is going be a, what I call, the Blue Zone, and I've seen a number of people call it the Blue Hour and that's completely misleading. It does not last one hour. It's just not even close. You might see blue for one hour, but that's not when you're going to be shooting photos. You have 15 minutes, depending on where you are on planet Earth, it's going to be longer at higher and lower latitudes but in most cases, it's a very, very short period of time where it's really at just the perfect level of blue. So, there's going to be a nice little Blue Zone and then the problem is that as the Sun gets a little bit higher, not quite over the horizon yet, the sky is going to be too bright and it's not going to be a very good time to shoot. Now this is the time that you want to have clouds. So at this point, what we're looking for is, we're looking for the Sun, we still can't see the Sun, the Sun is below the horizon but it's illuminating the bottom side of our clouds so it's a very tricky situation. You want clouds but not too many. It's like you're giving the weather Gods some very specific request. "I would like some clouds if they could be this shape, in this location but not over there, then I will be happy." And so this doesn't happen very often. Alright, so that's a great time to shoot with what I call Cloud Light. Eventually, the Sun will get over the horizon and will be illuminating the subject that you're trying to shoot and that'll be another different but good time to be shooting as well. So if you go out early in the morning, or the tail end of sunset, the very back end of sunset, twilight is the general time when the Sun is below the horizon. The Blue Zone. I consider twilight the larger time span in the Blue Zone is really when it's at its very best when you want to be shooting. That's when you get this very nice color and tonality of blue. So there's a lot of things that make it great for shooting a lot of different types of subjects but in general, you're going to have terrible light in the front side of your subjects. So if you want to see this baobob tree right here, it looks terrible, but if you want to see the shape of the baobob tree, it's fantastic. So think about things with shape. This is a terrible time to do people photography. You could have someone standing up on a hillside with their arms up, you're gonna have to have them hold steady because it's going to be a long exposure and so we're looking for things that can make nice silhouettes in some cases. Now, the other side is for doing more city photography. If you have sometime with light, this twilight time is very important because there's a balance between the light that you see here, the artificial lights and the blue sky, this is something that I'm going to diagram for you here in just a moment. So you have to work very careful about where this is. It happens very, very quickly as I mentioned. So looking for subjects with distinctive shapes or lights on them and depends on where you are but about 15 to 60 minutes before sunrise or after sunset is when you're likely to see it. You're probably going to need to underexpose, if you look at that image, it is mostly dark and this is often the best time for doing your city shots. Take a look at a National Geographic that does a story on a city. It does a story on some old city, chances are they're going to have photographs of that city in this Blue Zone time. That's when cities look really sexy and good. So out in nature, we're looking for things that have nice silhouettes to them. In Morocco, it's a silhouette time. In the city, we're looking for something that has nice lights to it. So having that blue sky just adds a lot to it compared to just a completely black sky. You can shoot this at this time of the year, you can have 12 hours in which to get a black sky behind you but if you want this blue sky, you have maybe five minutes in the morning and five minutes in the evening and that is the time of day that you will not catch me eating dinner if there's a good photographic possibility anywhere around me, I am out trying to get that in a photograph. Alright, so, nighttime. Let's do a time lapse in this case. On the bottom, we're going to be going towards sunset and, actually, this is sunrise, I'm sorry. Light's getting brighter, we've entered the Blue Zone and then it gets kind of dark and it's not as good cause the sky's a little too bright here. Now in this case, we have a lot of clouds rolling in, it's just ugly down here. And we're waiting for sunrise, sunrise has officially happened but we haven't seen the Sun because it officially needs to come up through the clouds here. So we have a couple different peaks here. The first one is when the sun starts getting up a little bit and illuminating that blue sky in the background. Then we have this dead period of time and time to sit down. Now I was actually out, at Garret Park again, this was a Saturday or Sunday so a lot of people had the day off so there's a lot of photographers coming in and you could just hear the clicks of the shutter. This is the sound of the shutters, okay? this is a sound wave of the shutters. It got up here and people, like "Hey, this looks good, click, click, click." and then it would just kind of naturally tail off and I'm not sure how many people were consciously aware of exactly what's going on with the lighting but then as the Sun rise starts coming up again you start hearing more "Click, click, click, click, click" because that's when the lighting gets a little better. There's a little dip here just because it was going in and out of the clouds. So I got a couple of a little time lapses, thinking about this. But this just kind of helps me categorize going, "When do I want to concentrate shooting?" and "When do I want to take my little breaks?" This is a nice twilight time, this is a good example of having the city lights on but still being able to see a little bit of color in that sky and the color in that sky really adds a lot more than just having a perfectly black sky. Also getting this reflected light on Mt. Rainier in the background. So let's diagram what's going on here. We're going towards sunset on this. Now on the top, we have pure sunlight, it's getting a little bit darker, some of the city lights are turned on, some of the city lights are turned off. As the sun is going after sunset, it gets just darker and darker and darker, let's hold here for a moment. So we have three different things going on. We have the sun getting darker, we have the lights that are currently on. They don't change in brightness, right? Once you turn a light on, I mean, the fluorescent lights take a little while to heat up but for the most part, they're steady. So those are on and then down here, we have lights that are turned off. Now for a lot of these buildings, for a lot of government situations, there is a point where they're supposed to turn their lights on. There's a certain light level that lights are supposed to go on. And so when those lights go on, that is usually a very good time to start shooting. Because what's going to happen, is we get here, this intersection right here, that's the Blue Zone, right there when the ambient light is matching the artificial light and then what happens is it just gets darker and darker and darker and you can start doing your nighttime stuff down here. But what this Blue Zone right here, you're going to get this really nice balance between the artificial lights in the building and the blue lights in the background. You can shoot here for 10 or 15 minutes but chances are you're going to find a particular color in tonality that you really like and it's going to last about 15 seconds and you're going to get one shot where things are perfect. And what's very difficult is a lot of times, the shots that I'm shooting in here are 15 second exposures. So, you're like "Maybe I can get three good shots off in this time." And it's still going to be pretty good five and 10 minutes before and after but there is kind of a moment where you're going to say this is the best lighting possible. So it comes and goes very quickly. So I think this is a very nice balance, I shot several photos, but this is one where I really like the balance of the blue sky versus the city. Now you'll notice this beautiful light on Mount Rainier. What's illuminating that? Well, I pointed the camera over to the horizon where the sun had set, this is my reflector. This is the light that is illuminating a little bit of the buildings and illuminating Mount Rainier. That's what the sky looks like over on the right hand side as I turn the camera. In Istanbul, Turkey, I got up early in the morning and I was photographing, and I was doing a series of shots. I kind of lucked out because as a teacher, it's a perfect example. You want to see what it looked like two seconds later? Can it really be that much different two seconds later? They turned off the lights. As soon as they turned off the lights, let me go back, look at the difference between turning the lights on and off. Look at this folks, I can turn the lights on this building on and off! See, there's a switch right here, I just switch it on. It makes a huge difference whether those lights are turned on or turned off. I know that I've had had other situations where I'm photographing in the morning and as soon as they turn the lights on, it's like "Okay, goodbye, I'm done for the day, it's over." I know when Ken and I were in Cuba, we're shooting the cars coming down the street and it's sunset and we're kind of waiting for the lights to come on. We're doing this streaked blur shots of the cars coming down the street. We'll just get some practice in now, it's just not that important. As soon as these cars turn their lights on, that's when things get good. But you only have about 15 minutes because then it's going to get too dark. So we need this area right when the lights are being turned on or right when they're being turned off. That's usually that between time and also, one of the other concepts that I've talked about in other parts of the class is having something ina photograph that we don't see with our own eyes very much in the time. This is something that only happens for a few minutes a day. So having this captured in a photograph gives people something to look at that that they don't see on a regular basis all the time. And so, up on the top of the space needle, I bought a yearly pass if the day was particularly good and I thought that I could get good shots that one day and so I went down there so that I could be here at this two minute period of time and so in someways, I invested a year so I could be in the right place at the right time. And them some yahoo with an iPhone comes up next to me says "Wow, this looks pretty good! "Hey, that's a nice shot. "Alright, I'm pretty good!" You know that's why some people do get lucky and they're in the right place at the right time. But recognizing it is part of the battle. And so here I am in Rome once I've kind of nailed exactly where I want to be, these lights get turned off at a certain point and you lose, it's got this very artificial orange light but there's also a very nice play between orange and blue in it. So that's a another element we'll talk about when we get to the color sections. But this can only happen at a certain place for a very short period of time. And if you're on the other side of the Colosseum and you start realizing this, by the time you work your way around here which can take you five minutes to get over here, it's gone. That's why having a couple a day to kind of really suss out the situation and find out where the lighting is and where you want to be during those very peak moments.

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