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The Second Money & Dual Process

Lesson 82 from: How to Start a Photography Business

Pye Jirsa

The Second Money & Dual Process

Lesson 82 from: How to Start a Photography Business

Pye Jirsa

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82. The Second Money & Dual Process

Booking a client a second time is easier than the first. In this lesson, Pye walks through how to book the first sale or the minimum package while allowing the client to upgrade later.

Lessons

Class Trailer
1

Class Introduction

13:12
2

Common Myths & Unknown Truths

11:42
3

The Road Ahead

13:03
4

Find Your Passion

06:06
5

The Lin & Jirsa Journey

13:54
6

Part-time, Full-time, Employed, Partners?

03:51
7

Stop Wasting Time & Money

06:07
8

Your 12 Week Roadmap

04:33
9

Great Plans Still Fail

06:01
10

Strategy Vs. Planning

04:16
11

Mind Mapping

07:25
12

Select a Focus

14:16
13

Competitor Research

09:34
14

S.W.O.T. Analysis

13:54
15

Strategy & Long Term Goals

03:50
16

Values, Vision & Mission

27:49
17

Effectively Managing Your Time

15:05
18

Artistic Development

07:30
19

Create Your Plan

13:12
20

What's Your Product

10:51
21

Luxury vs Consumer Products & Experiences

11:44
22

Quick Break for Econ 101

16:31
23

Your Target Market & Brand Message

21:25
24

What's in a Name

09:20
25

Your Client 'Why'

05:43
26

Crafting the Why Experience

24:17
27

Document the Client Experience

08:29
28

Business Administration Basics

27:03
29

Book Keeping Management

06:51
30

Create the Logo & Branding

07:04
31

Portfolio Design

15:11
32

Design Your Services & Packages

18:51
33

Pricing Fears & Myths

08:46
34

Three Pricing Methods

25:39
35

Package Pricing Psychology & Design

06:15
36

Psychology of Numbers

07:29
37

Pricing Q&A

23:51
38

Grass Roots Marketing

09:36
39

The Empty Party

07:03
40

Friends & Family Test Shoots

16:28
41

Join Groups

04:32
42

Second Shooting Etiquette

07:44
43

The Listing & Classified Hustle

14:10
44

Make Instagram Simple

13:55
45

Your Automated Pinterest Plan

08:01
46

Facebook Because You Must

07:37
47

Giveaway & Styled Shoots

12:17
48

Content Marketing & SEO

08:12
49

The Monster: SEO

07:26
50

Selecting Your Keywords

05:45
51

Testing Your Keywords

07:53
52

Grouping Main & Niche Goals

12:39
53

Your Content Road Map

11:47
54

Content Marketing Q&A

10:45
55

Inspiration to Keep Working

07:45
56

How to Craft Your Content

15:03
57

Internal Linking Basics

05:30
58

Back Link Building Basics

04:55
59

Link Value Factos

14:38
60

Measuring Link Value

04:24
61

Link Building Strategy & Plan

06:10
62

Link Building Plan: Vendors & Guest Writing

06:45
63

Link Building Plan: Features, Directories, Comments

03:11
64

Link Building: Shortcuts & One Simple Tool

14:44
65

What is Sales? Show Me!

12:58
66

Your First Massive Failure

05:17
67

The Sales Process

07:31
68

Your Second Massive Failure

05:23
69

Understand Buyer Psychology

10:00
70

Step 0: Building Rapport & Trust

15:14
71

Step 1: Identify Need or Want

15:39
72

Cognitive Dissonance

12:01
73

Steps 2 & 3: Value Proposition & The Solution

14:21
74

Step 4 : Close, Make the Ask

04:32
75

Step 5: Follow Up & Resolve Concerns

06:13
76

Family Photography Hot Seat

12:06
77

Business Example Hot Seat

15:52
78

Boudoir Photography Hot Seat

16:09
79

The Best Sales Person

07:45
80

Your Mindset, Vibrations & Frequency

06:56
81

Always Positive, Always Affirming

11:55
82

The Second Money & Dual Process

07:39
83

Chumming the Price Waters

03:57
84

Creating Want or Scarcity

09:54
85

Timeless Advice on Being Likable

11:53
86

Selling Over The Phone

10:59
87

Forbidden Words in Sales

11:40

Lesson Info

The Second Money & Dual Process

The second money. And I use this photograph because first of all, our studio manager's family is beautiful. Second, it's much easier to convince your husband to have the third child more so than the first, right? That's second money. We've already got two. Let's do a third. Ladies, you know it's true. No? (gasping) You have to be convinced? (laughing) Yeah, yeah. Second money is easier than first money. This is a psychology, kind of sales psychology piece of why do we try to get somebody to buy something before they exit, okay. If they can't decide. If they can't pick what package to get into now. If they can't choose what service is best right now, that's what your minimum is for. Your minimum is set to get them into something. Don't worry, Shell, we'll think about it later. I want to get your date locked in though. Let's get you started here. How can I take your deposit? So when you come to me with the objection of well Pye, I really don't know which package and everything like that.

I don't know my wedding day. I don't know my timeline. I don't know any of those things. No problem, Shell. Let's get you locked in. I want to get your date reserved. Let's start with the minimum. We can always add more later. When I see she's on the fence, I go to the minimum and I try and get my first sell, okay. Because it's always easier to add later. We can add albums, we can add hours, we can add wall art. The second sell is so much easier than first money. So don't let them leave without first money, okay. Do your best to get them into something then. And then allow them some time to figure out what they actually want to add. Does that make sense? Book now. We can upgrade a little bit later. We need to empathize without attachment. This comes from Jeb Blount in Sales EQ. It was such a beautifully written piece of what this whole piece is of sales psychology. But this has to do with understanding, empathizing, being able to hold that line while also being able to hold your position and your value. That's called dual process. Okay, most of us break down. We understand and we empathize and we break down on our value. Do you know why? Because we all, you all, we're all creatives. We're empathetic creatures at heart. We are tied into our emotions. We love people. We love creating images. We love helping. We love the people that. You fall a little bit in love with every one of these clients that sit across from you that you can relate with. Don't tell me you don't. Because that's what makes you good at what you do. And that's what makes you terrible at selling to them. Because we don't know when to be firm, when to walk. We don't hold onto our dual process. We drop one side of it. Now here's a question. If we hold onto dual process, what does this create? If you push me, who's gonna push me? Jason. If you push me on my price on the service that I offer on everything, and I say Jason, I would love to work with you and I know you're gonna love the service that you get. I don't know if it's a good fit though. If you want what I have and I'm willing to walk away, how does that make you feel? Like I'm losing something. Oh man, you feel like you're losing something right now. Being taken away. Yeah. It instantly creates scarcity. Thank you. That's exactly how it feels. If you want something and I don't know if it's a good fit. I don't know if this is right. I know it would be great. I would love to work with you. It may just not work. And that's okay. When you say those words, if it doesn't work, it's okay. You have just created scarcity in their minds because now oh man, okay. This the funny part about sales. It's very much like trying to approach somebody that you would like to date. Okay, doesn't matter. Man, woman. LGBT, anything, doesn't matter. If you're desperate, everybody runs from you, right? If I have this scent of desperation in the air. Hey Kenna. It's so great to meet you Kenna. I know so much about you. You are amazing. I love you. Do you want to go get some coffee? (participants laughing) Maybe next time. I mean overpowering. This over kind of like excited nature to kind of close the deal. No matter what kind of deal it is. Whether it's a date, whether it's a package that you're booking. If you're not willing to walk, well the assumption is there's something wrong. Just like your assumption would be oh man. Why is this guy so like, what's wrong here? What's going on in this situation? If you sense desperation, that's the first thing. If you're buying a car, why is that guy so eager to sell it to you? Why is that girl so much want to get you, Joe, into a freaking Honda Civic? It should be a good Honda Civic right? Was it used? Did somebody else bang it into a tree? What happened to it? Why is she so eager to get it off of her hands? That's exactly where our reasoning goes when we start pushing and we start getting kind of desperate. But if she came up to you and said Joe, I would love to put you in this Civic. Is there anything that I could do today to get you in that car? And you're like, I don't think so. Well when you think about what you'd like and if you think that you'd like a reliable car at a great price, let me know, bye. And then you're like, you're so pretty, and I really want that car. Please give me the car. Okay, so be willing to hold onto your dual process. Okay, be willing to understand and empathize with that person while not giving up what your purpose is in supporting yourself and your family. Because you either devalue them, yourself or your family, by letting that go. Or you hold onto your dual process and you make sure that you value both sides. You understand and you empathize. But this is your family. This is your time. This is your life, your blood. And you hold that in equal priority to what your clients want and need.

Class Materials

Bonus Materials with Purchase

How to Launch a Photography Business Workbook
Experience Pricing Example

Ratings and Reviews

Armstrong Su
 

This class and materials are to the point and eye-opening on the business side of photography. Pye Jirsa is an amazing and fun teacher as well! Most photographers need more business classes offered to bring us who love to create art back to reality for a more successful business that makes a living on it's own. This course will definately get you started in the right direction and so cheap too! Great investment! armstrong outdoor tv case outdoortvcase Pye Jirsa is one of the best instructors that I have the pleasure to learn from. He and his team have given me so much more than they'll ever realize. Knowledge, wisdom, training, friendship, mentoring, inspiration, joy... I cannot thank Pye enough for changing my life for the better. I owe them more than they'll ever realize. Thank you, Pye Jirsa!!!

Angela Sanchez
 

This class has been an eye opener for me; a point of change in my vision as photographer. Pye is and AMAZING, INSPIRING, GENEROUS instructor, with an, authentic desire to help people and to share with them the best of his knowledge. I will not have enough words to say thanks to Pye Jirsa, as a teacher and as a human being, and thanks to Creative Live who allows us to benefit from the experience of such a knowledgeable, educated, well-versed photographer and instructor. 1000% recommended!

Yenith LianTy
 

Been following this guy forever. Pye Jirsa may be well known in the wedding & portrait photography world and if there is something that this guy knows it is how to create a business, a sustainable one. The workbook he provided is comprehensive, and I honestly wish I had this when I first started out as a photographer! I love that he talks about his failures, keeping it real and honest for anyone starting out. He is definitely one of the best instructors around, super humble, down to earth and with a sense of humor to boot. The course is worth it! THE WORKBOOK is AMAZING! SUPER DETAILED!

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